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Post by Emerita on Jan 22, 2003 11:52:46 GMT -5
HA!.... Made ya click...... Thought this was for toys didn't ya.........lol ... I was talking to Schph in the other collectible thread and I mentioned that WE are the real Star Wars Collectibles....... We are the almost ancient ones...lol....almost...... I was just wondering how many of us collectibles there are here. I bet our collective Star Wars knowledge is staggering since we have been around since the beginning of Star Wars....well...lol.....since before the beginning. I used to hate the thought of getting older, only because I hate the thought of having to move on to another plane of existance...What if they don't have Star Wars there?? Where am I going to put my Star Wars collectibles?.. WHAT?.... You aren't taking your's?...... I guess we could start the first Jedi Celestial Collective Temple...lol.... I now embrace my age and knowledge. I don't fear getting older......well, almost...lol......I also realize that one day I shall hang up my Jedi field robes and don the Jedi Archive robes and be there for the Younglings that are thirsting for knowledge..... Of course I have another 50 or so years left. I feel that I shall live for a very long time and I know that it is Star Wars and this forum that will make it so.....uh "make it so"....you know...like..that other world...  .... anyhoo, If you are 50 years or better ( realize that I said better, not older...lol) come join me and let's make our mark in this universe....Younglings ( That is 49 and younger) feel free to visit.......we are always learning from you.....and when you reach your age of ascension, we shall be here to ease you into this great diminsion....... .........ENGAGE........and May The Force be with us.......
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jan 24, 2003 6:55:59 GMT -5
lol...
my observations on being a 50+ Star Wars nut....
People think you are absolutely the most crazy lunatic that could possibly exist...and that maybe it is time you "grew up"....to them I say... ppppppppppppppppllt
(that is the closest I can come to the "raspberries")..
Star Wars does indeed keep me young....as far as what they think about a 51 year old that wanders around in Jedi garb as much as she can....don't like it ....don't look!
Being "Jedi" has helped me also to try to keep "in shape". No...I can't do the things that Qui-Gon and Yoda can do...but I am in better shape than lots of people I work with who are half my age....but I gotta admit...it gets harder every year....I wake up each day with a new ache and pain...no matter how hard I try!
Our Chicago Force Book Discussion group will be meeting tomorrow...I intend to go in Jedi garb....it won't be the first time that I have attended an event and was the only one in costume....I doubt that anyone else will wear one...but who cares! We are going out to dinner afterward...always love hanging around a bar or restaurant in Jedi garb....lol....we'll see how it goes.
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Post by Emerita on Jan 24, 2003 10:43:22 GMT -5
You have more guts than me!!...LOL...I only go out dressed, if someone goes with me. Also I don't think you and I will ever look or act our age....I don't want to mentally grow old...I like the young to much...
I really think it is a shame that we can't dress if we want to. What if Star Wars never came to be and we dressed like that and we started our own religion? ......everyone would think that this was our traditional dress...although I did raise my eyebreows at the lady that dressed in her Starfleet uniform for jury duty...I did feel a little ashamed that I thought that way, because I was a little embarrassed at the way she looked with the toys on her belt. Of course if she had a better fitting and canon uniform and she left the toys at home and maybe worn a phone and pager on her belt, I would have said "You go Girl"...... She would have looked neat and streamline. The toys are what linked it to much with fantasy for everyone.
But what if there were no Star Trek? I would have thought what she was wearing was just a jumper...Funny how our perceptions are formed with the movie screen. Now if I went out with my Jedi pants, boots,belt and a heavy sweater, no one would think anything...but if I add the pouches and lightsaber to the belt they would, because they would reconize it as being SW .....of course if we went out in fatigues and a cap, we wouldn't get a second look either, because that is accepted military.
I do believe if Jedi was an accepted religon and never was on the big screen, that we would fit in just like the the Amish, or the Arabians and the Eastern Indian women. We don't make fun of the women that wear the long shawls, robes and dresses and head pieces that cover everything but the eyes. We just think that they are demonstrating their beliefs.....Why can't we? Truely it is because Star Wars is fictional and on the big screen, that it is not real.... We are supposed to fit into what American society thinks we should look like and dress like.....hmmmm...... I thought this was a free country.......well, it is, but only for what is accepted as reality........
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Post by Sal Mon Clectoro on Jan 24, 2003 17:12:12 GMT -5
Emerita, YOUR reality determines your focus.....
Peoples, perception of what is "real" are skewed visions from what they have learned and experienced.
For instance, someone could say that Africa doesn't exist. While most of us would think that person is crazy, if they had never been, then to them it does NOT exist. I've never been there myself, so how can I really say if it does or not.
We go on what people tell us.
I for one would love to see a religion call somethings like any of the following:
Order of the Jedi Knights of the Force (just plain) Jedi
Who's to say we can't. Organized religion is just that, organized. The leaders of those groups perpetuate the beliefs of people from ages ago. Members of those groups CHOOSE to believe that what their respective organized religion is saying is real. This certainly can and should apply to us as well.
I'd loved to see 200 years from now. Maybe there would be a religion based on the force....
Well, I'll get down from my theological soapbox now and let everyone ponder those thoughts for themselves.
BTW, I in no way meant to offend anyones personal beliefs. If I did in your opinion, I am sorry. That was not the intent of this post....neither was giving Han to this bounty hunter......Okay so even when serious I can't pass up a chance to quote.
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Post by Ryss Fal-Orran on Jan 24, 2003 22:24:20 GMT -5
I believe there actually already is a Force religion...not huge enough to make it official, and I can't remember the website...
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jan 25, 2003 7:32:32 GMT -5
a woman REALLY went to jury duty in a Starfleet uniform....I LOVE it!
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Post by Emerita on Jan 25, 2003 10:25:53 GMT -5
Welcome to the boards Sal Mon....You have good wisdom and I totally agree with you. I think we as SW fans do have a more focused reality.......
I have spent quite a few years reading about various religions because I had lost my faith in organized religion.....they all seemed to be out for themselves and were using the premise of God as a catalyst. I found one religion that was so close to the Jedi and I was surprised......I hope I don't offend anyone but it was the Wiccan religion here in America....The white craft of the Pagans. I read alot on it as I did with all the other religions. They hold the Mother Earth and Nature in high regard and pray to the Force around Giaya, (which they call Earth.) The Buddaists also center their religion around the inner self combining with Giaya....I normally don't get into religion or politics because it is such an explosive subject....... but I like the feeling that there is a possible Force that is virtually untapped out there for us. A religion that does not demand money from you in order to be a member of that church. To me it appears that most organizied religions have lost touch with the Force that surrounds us all..........I hope I didn't offend anyone.........I was raised in the Bible belt of the Carolinas( Jim Bakker*shudder* and the millions that he abscounded with) and I saw many things carried out in the name of religion and it scared me when I was little and angered me as an adult..........Getting back to loving nature and the forces within seem to be the only reality that makes sense........OK, I'm done.....
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Post by Emerita on Jan 25, 2003 10:40:25 GMT -5
LOL...Yeah, schph....her name was Bobbi something...She was featured in the movie Trekkies.....lol... Like I said, she did look tacky the way her uniform was put together. If she had taken the time to have a canon uniform without the toys, she would have been better. They told her to go home and change, which made me sit up and take notice that this country really wasn't as free as it claims...what if she had been an Eastern Indian and came in with the glittery shawls and beads and stones that their women wear...Would she had been sent home? I don't think so, because they would have been stepping on her beliefs...that are reality reconized...Any way, Bobbi continued to come to jury duty in her uniform despite what they said to her. I need to look it up and read it again. This was back in the late 80s I think. I have the movie here at home, but it doesn't cover the whole jury thing.........
Ryss, if you come across that web site, let us know......I am very intrested.
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Jan 26, 2003 6:35:49 GMT -5
There is an officially recognised jedi religion in Australia but it was started as a prank, but because of the # of people that registered in their census it was listed as a recognised religion. Well Em, I'm not offended by the comparison to Wicca, I'm not exactly Wiccan, but I am a Pagan of a very similar sort, and there are a lot of similarites. We of the Pagan community only have one TRUE COMMANDMENT, An It Harm NONE, Do As Thou Will! I can not even ill wish somebody, without having to pay the cosmic price threefold, whatever ill you do to another, you pay threefold, in this life or the next. I wear my Jedi Robes whenever it suits me, and wherever I feel like it. I have fun and can be as adult as I have to be, but for the rest of the time, I get as silly as I please. Well it's after 6:30 am and I gotta go to work in a few hours, so I gotta sign off, I didn't intend to stay this long, where did the night go?
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jan 26, 2003 8:35:25 GMT -5
A friend of mine is Pagan....I am Roman Catholic and go to church every week.....I went to a few of my friends Pagan rituals and found them to be interesting and, as you said, respectful of the Earth.
However...this is the point that they lost me....
As I have said, I do ecosystem restorations for the local Forest Preserve District. I have been doing that for over 10 years. The local Pagan group is also doing some restoration on their private grounds in Wisconsin. my friend, who is part of that Temple, asked me to go up there last fall to help. They were going to burn the prairie and I was the only other person he knew with wildfire fighting training. So I went. After we burned the couple of acres, we were to plant native seed in the areas we burned. The members of the temple lined up with a drum and chanted and threw the seed....chanting "grow prairie, grow". It was a beautiful ceremony....but from 10 years of breaking my back with chainsaws and rakes....I know that you have to get in there....break up the soil with the rake...and REALLY plant the seed. Chanting, where stirring as a ceremony, doesn't get it done......that is the point where they lost me.
I have been a Catholic all my life, but I do see value in other religions and find that the more you look into the other religions, the more similarities that you find. Being a "good person" (which most Jedi are supposed to be) is the best religion of all....
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Post by Emerita on Jan 26, 2003 10:25:54 GMT -5
Wow, That makes me worry...You would think that the Sect would at least know how to plant new trees and care for them.....Well, I hope the seed sprouted.... I was born and raised a Presbyterian...I married a Catholic in a Baptist church on Fort Bragg. After my divorce I moved back to my childhood home and rejoined my family church. I never really felt a part of it again.....I quit and did not go back when the young minister, told me I could not wear my rose quartz and white crystal bracelet to church because pagans used them to worship the devil....well, I lost it....I first called him the most ignorant man I have ever seen and that he should investigate and know other religions before defaming them....and that my crystals came from the ground just the same as his wife's 3 carate diamond and 7 carate emerald bracelet did and that God put them there just as he did those diamonds and emeralds. I ranted at him for close to 5 minutes on his stupidity.....When I left him, his mouth was hanging open.....I know that wasn't very Jedi like, but the bugger made me mad. He also preached against gays and said divorces were against god.....Well, I had to bring up the fact that he married a divorced woman with a child.....I told that preacher (25years younger than I) that he better pray for forgivness at his hyprocracy........I haven't believed in organized religion since then. I believe in myself and that there is a power above and beyond ourselves........I do believe that one should follow whatever religion they choose and be happy......* Em steps off soapbox*....lol..... I wanted this to be a happy and light thread....lol.....oh well, at least it is intresting...... 
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jan 27, 2003 6:50:22 GMT -5
it is still happy! I think we can all agree that all religions have their good and bad points....but that the most important thing is that we be a good person.... .....and be a good person who likes Star Wars 
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Post by Emerita on Jan 27, 2003 10:55:00 GMT -5
Yea!! We are the best! well, lol that does include ALL Star Wars fans no matter what age...
When I started talking in the forums, I was hesitant to say my age, because most people see over 50 as O-L-D....LOL....and I am convienced that we are far from that......Mentally I feel 20, but with the added knowledge that keeps me from making a complete idiot out of myself..... ;D
Oh, I was websurfing yesterday, looking up Jedi religion and there were over 500,000 Jedi sites...lol... so needless to say I didn't look at all of them. I did find one mention , if not the one that Nova mentioned, of an offical church in Austrailia...Didn't give details though..Alot of the sites were started and left for dead, some with the last post over a year ago.....sad....I did notice that most of the posters and site organizers were around 13 years of age.....I guess they got bored. That made me happy to be a part of the Assembly.......
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jan 27, 2003 17:58:52 GMT -5
ok....
we need a volunteer to go through each one of those 500,000 Jedi sites...and make a report....
Anyone? ;D
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Post by Ryss Fal-Orran on Jan 27, 2003 19:06:02 GMT -5
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