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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 3, 2005 22:36:05 GMT -5
I think Lucas had to cut out some of the Tatooine time because it was going on too long. But the fighting scene with Greedo was in there to show that Anakin did have a temper. In AOTC he is all argument; he and Obi-Wan are really getting on each other's nerves and it's mostly coming form Anakin. I'm so glad they were getting along better in ROTS.....for at least the first part of the movie.
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Post by thebluephoenix on Oct 6, 2005 17:39:35 GMT -5
Lucas made a lot of odd choices for the prequels. Jar-Jar and Jake Lloyd being the biggest ones IMHO. I did not like Hayden in AOTC. His acting was just not up to par. However, I think he was much better in ROTS. He was much more believable.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 6, 2005 17:52:49 GMT -5
When I saw Jar-Jar I just shurgged. This was coming from the man who invented Ewoks after all. Jar-Jar didn't really bother me much; he's just not the kind of humor I think is very funny.
I really liked Jake Lloyd in TPM. He was EXACTLY what I would have expected Anakin to look like as a kid. Cute and a little too smart for his own good. Oh sure, it's amusing when he interprets Qui-Gon's order to "stay in that thingypit" to mean "participate in a space battle", but that is just the kind of rule-bending that you saw him doing in the other two movies. Not so funny when he's older. Anakin's tendency to bend what he WANTS do into what he SHOULD to do was there right from the beginning.
I had no problems with Hayden's acting. He's terrific in "Shattered Glass". But in the second movie, he's all hormones and incredibly irritating; I don't know how Padme could see past that except that maybe she was guilty of some hormones, too; she was just better at hiding it.
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Oct 7, 2005 17:42:58 GMT -5
LOL... True the young Anaking telling R2 that Qui-gon told him to stay in that fighter. which he was doing....
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 7, 2005 20:20:38 GMT -5
Yesh, it's funny when a 9 year-old does it. And Anakin's I-can-do-anything attitude saves Obi-Wan's life in the opening of ROTS (and probably has many times). But it really sinks him in the end. It turns into I-can-have-anything.
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Oct 12, 2005 1:35:29 GMT -5
No Hayden did do vader in ROTS. He begged Lucas to do it.
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 2, 2006 14:19:48 GMT -5
Hayden replacement???
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Post by jedi12 on Apr 2, 2006 14:34:06 GMT -5
What replacement are you talking about
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Apr 2, 2006 19:06:57 GMT -5
To be honest, I liked Hayden as Anakin, and any flaws as an actor on his part, I put down to him religiously following the directions of a sub-par director who's obsessed with making constant homage to early filming values rather than being innovative as a film maker.
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Post by Xorren Hedrasii on Apr 2, 2006 19:19:45 GMT -5
I'm 99% sure that Uendo is talking about the head replacement in ROTJ.
And Tanzan, Its about time that someone came along and told his true opinion of GL. I'm going to have to agree with you on the homage thing.
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Post by obiwanron on Apr 2, 2006 20:43:28 GMT -5
To be honest, I liked Hayden as Anakin, and any flaws as an actor on his part, I put down to him religiously following the directions of a sub-par director who's obsessed with making constant homage to early filming values rather than being innovative as a film maker. I agree that Lucas' SW directing abilities were greatly diminished in the prequels. I've always said that The Empire Strikes Back was the best directed Star wars movie ever.
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Apr 3, 2006 3:32:25 GMT -5
And Tanzan, Its about time that someone came along and told his true opinion of GL. I'm going to have to agree with you on the homage thing. This is the thing, it's not that I dislike Star Wars, I wouldn't be here if I didn't like it, it just really bugs me that Lucas is put in the same 'League' of directors as people like Ridley Scott and Steven Spielberg, yet his films feature mistakes of attention to detail that a First Year film student would be made to re-film, and as I said above, constantly makes homage to things that no one (other than himself) cares about (or even notices), because that is just sheer self-indulgence. To be honest, I liked Hayden as Anakin, and any flaws as an actor on his part, I put down to him religiously following the directions of a sub-par director who's obsessed with making constant homage to early filming values rather than being innovative as a film maker. I agree that Lucas' SW directing abilities were greatly diminished in the prequels. I've always said that The Empire Strikes Back was the best directed Star wars movie ever. Which he didn't even direct... They say everyone has 'a novel' in them. ANH, THX and American Graffiti were Lucas' 'novel', and now he's burned out.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 8, 2006 22:18:53 GMT -5
EHh. It's GL's baby. He can do what he wants. Most director's have homages that they or their best buddies know about, and when the veiwer sees the director's commentary and hear stories and reasons behind the homage, it shows a wee bit of the director's thinking. Most folks won't see it and it's not a big dealanyway. Shrek 2 had homages, quips, quotes and visuals from movies in my generaition that no kid would know of unless they'd seen the movies with mom and dad. Examples of those flick homage, Ghost Busters, a few quotes from commerials."Help me, I've fallen and I can't get up!".
Wizard of Oz."Ahh.... I'm melting. melting..." Movies will be filled with homages what the director had seen recently and/or grew up with and even who made the greatest impact. is this bad? Heck no, can it be missed by the general public? Yes, but that's alright. All that matters is the ones who the homages were made to can see them. If their dead, NP, just a tip of the hat to their work.
Now for clarity, what mistakes have been made?
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Post by Seda Navilli on Apr 9, 2006 1:31:25 GMT -5
Tanzan's talking about the many "saber switcheroos" and inconsistencies in the movies, hell we were taught about that in year 11 media class!
I agree that the homages he uses are pretty self indulgent, and that GL is past his time. Buuuuuuuuut.... he was the reason that the Prequels were even made, and they reinspired my love of star wars, so I've got no beef with him, despite how horrid some aspects of the new movies were. I think that TPM was the closest in feel to star wars, whilst RotS was the coolest of the prequels, but the one that was the least like the originals.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 9, 2006 13:09:48 GMT -5
Humm sabre swtich problems. Well, that might not be ole' George's fault. The wardrobe and prop department have to have the cosutmes and props labeled tote correct actor and actress's. If they don't mistakes like sabres on the wrong person happen. Some directors will motice that if they're extremely involved with the costume and prop construction. Some directors don't notice until the post production, sometimes they can catch it vewiing the daylies, sometimes not . But..<big shurg> all we can do is not make the same mistake when we make movies. Year 11 of media school? Or did you mean year 1? (I think that's what it is.) You're right, about the prop foibel, but mistakes happen with huge productions, huge staffs etc.
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