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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 7, 2005 9:27:33 GMT -5
I've decided to takeacrack at making one of these from scratch instead fo reenginering my own shirts.
I've several yards of white crinkle cotton to work from, and a Simplicity pattern #7187 to use. This has several varients of men's shirt patterns. I'm going to use the long sleeved version but am stuck on how to do the modificaitions for the front part of the tunic. I don't know if the back requires any modifications or not. Any seamstress or tailor's advice is wanted. :-)
I want to get this one as close as I posibly can to the Movies. I Do know Primrodo's under tunic looks right on the mark for the front closure spacing. Just HOW did he do that? Justin if you stumble over this thread. If you've pictures of your undertunic, cna you send them as JPEG files to me or post them here please?
Thanks for any help.
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 7, 2005 10:11:15 GMT -5
Hey! Of course my free pictre host has decided to die at the moment. So its being emailed to you Lisa Believe it or not the back was patterned after a Tshirt I owned and sleaves just made from another pattern...not sure which. As for the front we made it like that with out the trim and tried it on and adjusted it until it laid right for the neck. Just make sure the straight line down is about 4 or so inches from your armpit, that way it will have the right angle and comfort. The one pic I sent you the body was too long but it tucks in, either way its actually quite simple for a tunic. I hope that helped a bit Let me know if the picture doesn't reach you!
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 7, 2005 10:30:00 GMT -5
Thanks. The picture helped plus knowing that type of closures you sue. I might ned to use something else for durability. I do know the crinkle cotton might not be strong enough to deal with a velcro. The long body is fine.
Now what do you mean by the "Straight line"? The line that runs along side the body from the armpit to the shirt bottom or another? Do you mean the arm holes must be larger then normal orthe shirt front must be wider to accomidaite the crossover folding?
I can use all the help from seamstresses and trailors.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Apr 7, 2005 15:02:43 GMT -5
One thing you may need to compensate for is bust size. The method of trying out the front pieces until they fit right sounds good to me. I just use ties for closures for my undertunics. The front lays, left over right, like the outer tunic.
Also, what kind of sleeves does the tunic pattern have? Do they have a lot of curvature at the shoulder? Less curvature at the shoulder gives you more range of motion. Also, I've found that most shirts that have tight fitting sleeves are too confining unless they're made out of stretchy knits. I'd make the sleeves wider at the armholes so you have a good range of motion. That part will be covered up by the tunic anyway.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 7, 2005 17:56:34 GMT -5
Actually I'm making it for a male client. He fits a large sized shirt, but I do want to have room in the undertunic for full range of motion when he sabre spars.
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Apr 7, 2005 21:42:33 GMT -5
I 've done a few different under tunics, but I usually use the same pattern , but then modify the neck a bit higher and the sleeve can be either a straight, but narrower or sometimes I do a thing inside with a few rows of really thin elastic, either 1//4 or 1/8th of an inch, and strech & stich it down and then let it gather the sleeves in a series of bunches, they are good for motion, look bunchy-interesting and are very comfortable. On lt. wt. crinkle gauze I used elastic tread in the bobbin and it does a soft gather, I do it same as the elastic in rows spaced about an 1 1/2 inch apart four or five rows. The elastic tread works only on lt wt fabric, not on muslin or anything else that weight.
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 8, 2005 6:15:07 GMT -5
Now what do you mean by the "Straight line"? Thats the part that comes straight down after the angled Trim. Pic host is back:
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 12, 2005 17:00:41 GMT -5
YAY! It's back. Primrodo, the picture and your descriptions are immensly helpful. This full length shot helps. It conferms my guess to use the pattern for a regular long sleeved man's dress shirt. The midificaitions are VERY easy to do. Unless there's a feline who enjoys walking across paterns peices cuz she likes the crinkling sound. :-D
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 18, 2005 12:01:13 GMT -5
The under tunic is turning out VERY good. Crinkle cotton seems to be pretty sheer. Any suggestions, ideas?
SNaps and velcro would require fabric reinforcement behindit so the fabric wouldn't tear from repeated undoing. Buttons are a maybe, if the costumer is dextrous enough.. Making ties. <big shrug>
Anyone have ideas?
I was going to use a medium sized snap, reinforce the fabric behind said snap and cover that over with a decorative chinese frog closure. It'd hide the snap's back and the frabic piece I'd use for reinforcement. Plus it'd look intersting.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Apr 18, 2005 16:03:19 GMT -5
I ended up sewing the V-neck closed on a couple of my under tunics -- sewn on the flap that is covered up by the outer tunic, not on the V-neck park. There's still enough of an opening for me to get my head through. I used velcro on another undertunic (made of crinkle cotton). I knew it would take forever for me to get snaps lined up. The velcro gives me room for adjustment and it's also covered up by the outer tunic.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 18, 2005 18:25:34 GMT -5
Velcro from the neck to the shirt bottom?
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 9, 2005 17:19:43 GMT -5
Ahh under tunic is finished and the customer LOVES it. I'm making another one for another.. Now I've a question concering my over tunic I'm making. Unfortuntatly the fabric tends tofray at the edges. Anyone know what I can do to 1. stop the fraying and 2, reenforce hems. It seems to e a natural fabric. a cotton of sorts.
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Post by Dragone on May 9, 2005 17:36:49 GMT -5
Thats the part that comes straight down after the angled Trim. Pic host is back: [glow=limegreen,2,300]dude where can i buy a shirt like that accept black[/glow]
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 9, 2005 18:13:34 GMT -5
Unfortuntatly the fabric tends tofray at the edges. Anyone know what I can do to 1. stop the fraying and 2, reenforce hems. It seems to e a natural fabric. a cotton of sorts. The fast way to deal with fraying is just a bottle of FrayCheck, though it might be a little rough next to the skin. I like felled seams, like for jeans, for fraying fabric; that way they edges are enclosed in the seam itsefl. It's a little tough to do on sleeves, but it can be done. For edges, I just zigzag with a tiny, hankerchief hem before the actual hemming.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 9, 2005 20:05:24 GMT -5
Unfortunatly I haven't a sewing machine so al the sewing isby hand.
I'll be on the look-out for the FrayCheck stuff. Someone else also suggested A bias tape or a something of that manner to stop fraying threads.
Thanks for the tip. I'll look for both .:-) I'll let you know which product works.
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