How do you put on your belt

[Saberbelt]

Ani-Chay said:

Where did you find those rivets?

Ah, the trade secrets

I actually have to buy them in bulk from a distributor in Ohio (not Tandy), where they get them, I honestly don't know

I am still trying to think of a way that the belt could actually function the way you guys want and I am drawing a blank. I am sure it can be done but I think it would have to be custom fit to the person and not have much room for adjustment - make sense?

You guys are making me think too much

[Ani-Chay Pinn]

Well, if there are any costume people from the movies at CIII, I guess we could ask about the belts....and everything else about the costumes.

The downside with asking how a movie costume works is that it might not be very practical.. Movie costumes a just need to look good on camera, no matter how it might have been pinned up. Hall costumes have to look good close up and be wearable. They just don't have the same requirements.

My personal speculation about how a Jedi puts on the gear on in the morning is:

1.) Clothes and boots on first.

2.) Under belt (with large, wide back loop and belt pouches) goes on next. Presumably it has some knd of velcro-like fastener.

3.) Thread on the narrower belt next, between the studs and inside the back loop and pouches. Connectiing the front belt keeps the wider belt in place better.

4.) Attach any extra, removable pouches, food pellets, lightsaber, etc. last.

5.) Ready to go.


Hmmmmmm....y'know I think something like that might work with the belt I have now. I have an adjustable belt buckle on my front belt, so that would make it possible.

What causes complications for Jedi belts is that the front belt buckles do not look adjustable. But perhaps we can assume that somehow they are for the Jedi. That's the way movies work.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

With the one someone made me. the narrow and wide belts are BOTH adjuatable.. The larger belt keeper in the back is anchored to the wide belt, it's rivits are towards the body. The narrow one passes through the keeper.

I pass the wide belt through the keeper, then weave the narrow belt through there too. Buckle closed. The fine adjustments are done by slidding the small beltkeepers over(The ones on either side of the buckle) the leather peice here are NOT rivited closed. I pull on the leather peices to make looser or tighter. Once finished slid the keepers back into place and rebuckle. That's why it's good to have a VERY strong metel buckle or it'd gonna come off.

Most is done by feel for me and sometiems an extra hand to hold it agaisnt me while I fiddle with the smaller belt.

I jsut put the thing on. It seems I can get this design on and clsoed quicker then my snap design which I have to squerm wiggle and jump around to close. For pouch installment. they nsap. I slid the straps through the wide belt AFTER it's on me. Sabre is next and badda bing I'm outta here.:-)

I was going to make a belt like that for a costume for someone but figured they'd be driven up the wall and I'll go with the standard snap or velcro closure.

Time for buckle hunting too in case Mon-Jas' buckle isn't strong enough. They'er too pretty in my mind to break even if on accident.

[JediKai]

Ani-Chay said "The downside with asking how a movie costume works is that it might not be very practical.. "

I have always thought that the stunt costumes, the ones the Jedi wear during the huge lightsaber battle scenes, MUST have gussets under the arms and/or maybe even in the middle of the back. I have nothing close to that amount of range of motion in my ordinary tunic. Both techniques are used in making tunics for SCA fighters to give them greater range when sword fighting.

[Laan Kro]

Mynn, that's why I went with the Strapworks buckle this time. I knew with my particular design all the stress would be focused on that front buckle. Not that the whole belt would immediately fall off if it came undone, but it would be a major inconvenience if it did, so I didn't want to take any chances.
I know it's not the same look as the buckle you mentioned but it works for me.

[Mon-Jas Charan]

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The front buckle I use I super glue it together ... as far as getting the belt on and off I use a 2 inch slide buckle



in the back and then I use 2-1 inch straps and a 6 inch piece of the 2 1/2 inch belt to cover the buckle.



I have not had either buckle come off or break in almost 4 years ... The only problem I have had is that I need help at times buckling the belt because I can not stretch at time to get it fastened … loosing a few pounds would most likely help me with that

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[Jauhzmynn Enz]

hehe.@ Mon0Jas. yeah needing a little extra play in the shoulder muscles helps buckling these things. SUper glue may work but for me, I don't wanna dothat.

Laan,
Have you a picture of the buckle/s you have found?


Kai,
I've a great range of motion in my tunics, and a few members here who've sene me move know I'm pretty flexible and quick.

My under and over tunics have no gussets anywhere. The pants, are made of a cotton material with some flex and streatch to them. If I make another under tunic, I'll make the sleeves of a soft cotton blend that has some flex and stretch liek my pants.

Under tunic a cotton osenburg, just a littleover sized in the body, but former fitting in the arms.

Over Tunic: silks, form fitting in the upper body, large arm holes, very loose at the wasist and below..

[Laan Kro]

Mynn,
They're the ones from strapworks.com that Kai Rhann pointed out several months ago.
www.strapworks.com/metalsiderelease.html
I know the discusssion bringing up these buckles again could cause, but you did ask.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

I don't know why they'd freakover a buckl;e. It's such a mondane thing.

If a side release works great for you then I say good.:-) Some folsk aren't real flexibleto reach behind them and dothe "Jedi belt twist and wiggle" dance. :-D

[Saberbelt]

That buckle arguement was due to wording, nothing more. It was implied that the buckle was accurate to Anakin's buckle, that is where I had a problem, at least that is the way I read it.

I have a couple buckles from Strapworks, the 3/4" metal one is real heavy IMO so be prepared for it to dip and sag if you don't have your accent belt tight. Still, it is a nice buckle for custom belts

I use to use a 2.25" side release buckle in the back, but opted for the cleaner look of Velcro, the back of the belt lays a bit better IMO

Dave

[Leda EmBorr]

Velcro works fine for me... it's all a matter of preference. It's hidden anyway.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

Ahh gotcha ya' both.:-)

it all works out and all loosk good.

I do like the polished silver buckle. It holds it's shine a LONG time. might get a scratch or two but that's alright. It gives it charactor. My belts I don't weather then artifucally. I wear 'em and let them do that naturally.:-) Same for my tunics. I let the garments destress or weather naturally. Looks more real.

Except for once I'd gotten caught on the hing of adoor(Dude, don't laugh. LOL JK.) and ripped my overtunic. No prob, got some thread, sewed it up.(Same shade) and it's happy.

[obix1]

Hello guys,I lurk here from time to time,so I thought I'd actually post for once.

Anyway,I had a lot of trouble keeping my belt on (mostly due to bigger waist size) and velcro didn't work for me at all. With my heavy saber and all the gear on my belt,it would fall off a lot. So,I finally just got some help,and we used a leather punch to punch two holes in the back of it. We then put two small bolts (or screws,whatever you want to call them) in it,and attached put washers on them so it wouldn't fall off. And let me tell you,it works great! Once you get the belt on,there's no way it's coming off! And the best part is that once you've got your robe on you can't notice them at all.

Anyway,that's my trick for keeping my belt on.

[Ani-Chay Pinn]

I'm puzzled. How do you loosen it to take it on and off if the belt is bolted together? Do yo undo the screws and then put them in to put it on?

[Leda EmBorr]

I'm guessing he just takes off the bolts... That's a great idea. just don't lean back on them too hard!