How do you put on your belt

[Saberbelt]

Oh yea - this is a great discussion - I just don't want it to turn into a "I'm right because..........." debate ;D

I know Justin has some close up pics of the real belts and I haven't seen any taper on them at all. I agree that the Sam Browne rivets will work for the Jedi look, but the untapered is by far the more screen accurate

I know I made the switch over to all screw back rivets and my knuckles thank me for it

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

I never noticed any manner fo 'heat' either. Except for the inside tempretures when cooking stew.

I knwoone friend found these very nice looking items to put on her belt on either side ofher buckle instead fo belt keepers. it made hers look very femine.
They were a two -toned metalic oval shaped concho type things.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

OH yeah, I prefer the s.crew back rivits. I bust my knuckles with the flat rivits to secure the beltkeepers.

Obi Wan, Qui Gon and Anikan's belts are the ones we really see. The others we might see the buckles and such, but super close ups of the rivits would be difficult.

I think if someone at a con comes up to me to measure the taper or size of the sambrown rivits on my belt is TOO stinkin' close and woudl deserve a nice bonk on the noggin'. :-)

They'd better be married to me to stick their face that close to my stomach. :-D

[Saberbelt]

Jauhzmynn said:

I think if someone at a con comes up to me to measure the taper or size of the sambrown rivits on my belt is TOO stinkin' close and woudl deserve a nice bonk on the noggin'. :-)

They'd better be married to me to stick their face that close to my stomach. :-D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - thats why you need a metal saber

I don't know if I ever posted the pics or not but I did a couple belts that were 2" with a real nice, feminine buckle where I used no belt keepers. Basically when I was laying out the belt, the keepers were holding the buckle too far off the main belt (yes, the buckle is that small), so I actually took and cut out holes into the leather under the buckle where the straps went through. I then took and hid a rivet behind the accent belt, so it wouldn't be seen, and actually secured the accent belt right to the main belt about half way between the buckle and the 1st set of rivets. The end result was a very clean, feminine look.

I will try to get some pics of it posted later - I just have to see if they are already on my server or not

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

Yep. a 1 kilogram saber makes a VERY nice club.:-D Hopefully it won't be a Klingon I slug. or he'll think I'm trying to initaite a marriage consumation practice.

How embrassing that'd be.

Thanks for the soon coming picture. I'd like to see that. It sounds nice.

[Saberbelt]

Here it is:



Close Up

Dave

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

That's pretty nice Dave. I like the color.

My belts are black, and the reddish brown latigo color. I've one black one and 2 latigo.

[Leda EmBorr]

To answer Ani's question, my belt fastens in the back with velcro, and the front buckle is non-functional. I think the belt lays flatter that way... anything to get that belt to lay flat!
I used the velcro you get at Office max or Staples for computer bag straps. It's adhesive backed, but I also sewed it on at the corners that take the most stress. To sew it on, I punched two small holes right through the leather and the velcro and stitched them with heavy thread. The wide belt keeper on the back of the belt hides the stitches.

[Ani-Chay Pinn]

The narrower belt (on all three of my Jedi belts) is made of thinner leather than the wider one. I think that really makes it stay nice and flat. It also works well with the Sam Browne rivets, which are close enough for me. Actually, the other two belts hold the narrower belt in place with 4 riveted, leather cross pieces. This strays a bit from screen accurate, but I think it's very Jedi looking.

I do like the sound of the velcro thring, and I'll definitely try it the next time I start looking for another belt.

[Saberbelt]

I actually use the same thickness leather on both my main belt and accent belt - seems to work and lay real nice.

There was a hyperspace pic of a background Jedi who had somethig similar to that you are describing. I would post the pic but I think we would get into a bit of trouble . I actually did one similar to what you described:



That is a 1 of 1 custom that I never plan on duplicating. That was for a friend and he still loves it to this day, 2 years after we made it.

I understand what you are saying about the Sam Browne rivets, they are close and I use to say the same thing but now that I have the more accurate ones and use them all the time, I am much happier with how the belt looks, accent belt lays, and how the front buckle lays - make sense?

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

It makes sense to me.
I know mine probably looskv ery amature compared to yours. I'm learning and the next one I'll use the scivver to cut down the leather's thickness some sothe small beltkeepers won't mkae such a large buldge. Maybe this'll help the buckle lay a little flatter.


Mon0Jas has some buckles but I don't know how thye'll hold as a functional buckle. My next belt will use the wide and narrow belts in tension with each other to hold it on me. The buckle being the securing thing. Also maybe some cleverly hidden clasps.
Does thissound doable Dave?

[Laan Kro]

Mynn, that sounds like exactly what I did, minus the extra clasps in back. I used the buckle that Kai Rhann found and it's plenty strong enough to hold the whole thing together.
I wanted to mention, too, after reading Dave's admonition not to argue earlier, that I didn't mean for anything in my earlier post to be argumentative. When I said that I never saw much sense in the smaller belt being only for show, I was referring to GFFA, not our costuming. I've just always wondered why Jedi, if real, would have an extra belt on top of a bigger belt, just for decoration. I tried to figure out a functionality for it and I made my latest belt as an experiment. It worked and it's what I plan to do from now on. I do understand that whatever works for our costumes is acceptable. Sorry if I contributed to any tension, Dave.
At least I didn't jump in on the rivet talk. ;D

[Saberbelt]

My thing was just a precaution thing - I have seen to many conversations turn sour because a comment was read wrong - which I probably read wrong. No worries from me, I just prefer friendly conversations to arguements ;D

Amature? Heck no, if you like the way your belts look then why would you worry about it not looking "professional"? I am far from a professional and believe me, I love seeing other people make their own stuff, especially if I was able to contribute or influence in some small way.

Hidden clasp......................not really working for me so I will have to do some research and maybe some trial and error. I know I incorporated a "loop" on the inside of my OT belts that actually holds the 2 belts in line with each other - that kind of idea might work, but I think the 2 belt thing might mess with the design . Here is a pic where you can kind of see the loop:

www.saberbelt.com/images/AndyBProject012.jpg

If you look just to the right of the buckle you can see the loop covering the belt. Here are the other pics of that:

www.saberbelt.com/AndyBProject.html

That might be something that could work if you play with it - although that design is using 1 belt not 2, that could prove to be a problem...........

Dave

[Ani-Chay Pinn]

Saberbelt said:

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There was a hyperspace pic of a background Jedi who had somethig similar to that you are describing. I would post the pic but I think we would get into a bit of trouble . I actually did one similar to what you described:

Really? Gee, I was just looking for something that would hold the accent belt in place. I didn't think I might be lucky enough that they'd done something similar in any of the movies, though I used flat rivets; if they were sticking out over both belts they would just annoy me. I'll have to go poking around Hyperspace for Jedi pictures.

Saberbelt said:

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I understand what you are saying about the Sam Browne rivets, they are close and I use to say the same thing but now that I have the more accurate ones and use them all the time, I am much happier with how the belt looks, accent belt lays, and how the front buckle lays - make sense?

Yeah, that makes sense. The reason why I only got enough of the Sam Browne rivets for one belt is because I didin't want to have the same thing on all my belts. I wanted a different look to each belt and there would be plenty of room for finding something I might like better, whenever that might come along.

Where did you find those rivets?

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

Thanks Laan, and Dave,

Like you two I like experimenting and having fun with it. Engineers have a tried and true mantra. "Form follows function." Lann, you and I are alike in trying to see how such a belt could be constructed with that form being functional. Although the narrow band does look nice even if in reality it's jsut decoration cuz the wardrobe people liked it.:-D