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Post by Theyrenotdolls (Den Dragonson) on Apr 29, 2005 22:28:24 GMT -5
Episode III visual dictionary p. 37
Saesee Tinn has his saber on his right side. ...Done.
Kit fisto has food capsules on the left....possibly blocking the spot for his saber...so his might also be on the right on ep.3. cant tell. what about the ep.3 action figure?. -----------------------Speculation Begin -----------------
No doubt that george originally based the location on samauri rules. I would say though, that there's room for changes when you make it fiction and put it up on the screen. i dont think that hanging on the right means left handed, necessarily.(though i agree that most jedi are right handed and hang their saber on the left) saesee tinn, being non-human, may be more comfortable for him.
I also think it's stretching to say that "SITH" hang saber on the right...when we only know that 1/4 do indeed hang their saber on the right.... (we dont know about sideous yet). Also the one SITH that we KNOW hangs his saber on the right had a very non traditional style of saber, double bladed. ---------Speculation End -------------------------------
TND
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Post by Xana on Apr 29, 2005 22:44:05 GMT -5
example, not all had the posts and middle belt. There were variations on belts, boots and such but I It seems however that there is a division in this group........some are dedicated to researching and following the best info available and others are just doing whatever floats their boats to just have fun. I am sure there is room for both and discussions are always enlightening. Pardon me, I am here for both, and variety is the spice of life. ;D Our own council will we keep on what is acceptable for admittance to this club. To the general public just having a saber at all says "Jedi". And I agree with you wholeheartedly that there is room for both purity and having fun while still be recognizable as a Jedi. As for color variations, we have a costume here that is light purple and plum colored in some parts and we all like it very much. ;D Jedi Barbie, however doesn't qualify............. See? We have standards!!! Really we do!! ;D
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Post by Shoshana Win on Apr 29, 2005 23:00:39 GMT -5
Thank you theyrenotdolls! I knew I should of picked up a copy of that, but I got sidetracked with all of my preparations for CIII.
I agree that we need to be recognizable as Jedi and adhere to certain standards. However, as Xana has stated, having a lightsaber says Jedi to the general public, and they don't really care which side you hang it on. As for Covertec clips being used for comlinks,etc, I've personally never seen it, though of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. However, considering this was a battle, and her lightsaber was drawn, AND the Covertec clip was empty, I still believe she wears her saber on the right. However, I doubt I will change your mind, so the point is moot. Perhaps TND's reference will be more helpful in resolving the issue.
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Post by Shoshana Win on Apr 29, 2005 23:11:35 GMT -5
Not every piece of information has to be stated by Mr. Lucas or a minion. Sorry, but I can't agree with you on this one. This is George's story, George's characters, George's environments, George's imagination. What he says about Star Wars is LAW and the final word. We are all just lucky that we have been granted access into the amazing world he has created. I am a purist when it comes to this...if George or someone he has authorized doesn't say it, either in print, dialogue, or pictures, it's NOT canon. That's just how I feel about it...I know a lot of people disagree with me on this, and I have no problem with that ;D!! Added note: I understand that the subject of what is canon is very controversial . I wanted everyone to know that I didn't write this to start a discussion (argument, really ) about what is canon and what isn't. I just wanted to respond to Kyrel-Dak's statement and let him know how I PERSONALLY feel about the subject.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Apr 30, 2005 1:11:14 GMT -5
right or left.... is this a secret code I'm unaware of? What if I'm undecided... would I wear it in the middle?
Ouch
All kidding aside... I don't think George has spent much time considering this. It's similar to what Nick Gillard said in response to the question "did you make up the seven styles of lightsaber fighting?" He replied, "Huh? I don't know what those are."
SW is, after all, a movie... a space fantasy... It is entertainment, comraderie, inspiration... not historical, not real. I think it's important to keep in mind that although this is great fun, it can easily take up much more time and effort than it should.
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on Apr 30, 2005 4:54:21 GMT -5
I am my own character. I can choose where I put what on mybelt. I do not sit there and count how many stitches are in the hem of a certain character's robe. I am not Obi-Wan nor Qui-Gon nor Anakin. I wear my saber on the right because my arms are short and it is not easy for me to reach across to my left side.
My Padawan-son is left-handed and wears his on the right.
Unless Lucas comes out and says All Jedi Must Wear Sabers on the Left or be kicked out of The Jedi Assembly, I will continue to wear it on my right.
Each Jedi are individulas. Each has her/her own outfit. Look atthe varities of colors and even fabric composition.
And we have not seen all 10,000 Jedi in the galaxy nor are we privvy to all their teachings so we cannot say ABSOLUTELY whether this is "tradition" or just what they feel comfortable with
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on Apr 30, 2005 6:15:43 GMT -5
BTW Dooku's is on his left
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Post by lazlototh on Apr 30, 2005 10:12:39 GMT -5
Dude I never noticed! I wear mine on my right. I don't expect to quickdraw or ignite my saber with a flourish. I just take it off my belt - and voom.
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Post by Theyrenotdolls (Den Dragonson) on Apr 30, 2005 10:37:50 GMT -5
right or left.... is this a secret code I'm unaware of? What if I'm undecided... would I wear it in the middle? Leda, it's like the 1980's secret code for earrings for men...is it in his left or right...or both? anyway, i think that i agree with much of the above that there is "canon" and canon comes from Georgie boy. (aka TMRFE) BUT: He has given us the opportunity to take his creations, his imaginary universe and run with it, make it part of OUR universe Many of us have made Star Wars our own thing and in this universe there is much latitude and room for creativity. Because something is not "canon" does not make it unacceptable as Star Wars. TND
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Post by Shoshana Win on Apr 30, 2005 12:55:44 GMT -5
anyway, i think that i agree with much of the above that there is "canon" and canon comes from Georgie boy. (aka TMRFE) BUT: He has given us the opportunity to take his creations, his imaginary universe and run with it, make it part of OUR universe Many of us have made Star Wars our own thing and in this universe there is much latitude and room for creativity. Because something is not "canon" does not make it unacceptable as Star Wars. TND I agree wholeheartly with you TND, that just because it's not canon, doesn't mean that it's not acceptable as Star Wars. I'm sorry if I gave anyone that impression! (And why I hesitate to talk about canon in the first place ) Being able to be creative with it is part of the fun of being a SW fan, and part of this group in particular ;D. I guess what I meant was that, if we ever "set standards" or declare what Jedi "should" be like, then we have to go back to the source, which in my opinion is Lucas. However, although we do have several standards for what kind of costume we accept for TJA, we certainly don't demand that costumes be movie accurate (what I call canon), unless the situation demands it. Like volunteering at CIII, for example. That's not our intention for TJA!!! And the creative costumes our members have come up with help make this such a fun group.
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on May 1, 2005 13:47:24 GMT -5
If you go by either of the combat styles, the weapon is typically worn on the opposite side of your prodominant hand. Right handed fencing jackets hold the sword on the left, etc.
Depending on your style, I'm right handed and keep my saber on my right for easier access.
Vader even hangs his lightsaber differently for the same reason.
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Post by Primrodo on May 1, 2005 15:11:34 GMT -5
Actually Vader wears his differently because the Dring was on the emitter and there was no way to rivit it to the bottom as the MPP wouldn;t allow it. In ROTS he has a covertech on the bottom of the saber just like the rest. Lets not forget though in Japanese tradition it didn;t matter what your predominant hand was, you wore your blade on the left no matter what. The Jedi costume and basic tradition is feircely Japanese. What people haven't been taking into account for their proofs is two things: 1) Photo Evidence. 2) Costume antics. Sometimes an image will be flipped in the visual dictionary and some other assorted media, a tell is the way the tunics are foled, which is always left over right (again feicely japanese) If you see it backwards, then the photos been flipped. Also, POST your pictures too, its better than arguing Also don't forget in AOTC the covertec on Jedi belts in the Arena were just there, most didn't even have them. They were simply placed on the belt for assumption. I wouldn't be surprised if they were simply slapped on. Which is why Anakin goes from no pouches to having a single pouch in the arena. Now I am in no way saying that there should be restrictions of how you wear the lightsaber, but there is a look and a pattern to all the Jedi.
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on May 1, 2005 16:24:59 GMT -5
In the days of knights the swords were worn on the left to facilitate mounting/dismounting a horse.
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Post by Kyrel-Dak on May 1, 2005 20:16:07 GMT -5
So would a swoop, Tauntan, Dewback or any other count as the Star Wars version of a horse...........
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Post by Theyrenotdolls (Den Dragonson) on May 1, 2005 21:11:08 GMT -5
primrodo, i thought of the possibility of the photo being flipped as well. i didn think of checking the tunic though. from what i can tell, it looks as if saesee tinn's tunics are folded left over right...as they should be.... yet his saber is still on the right.
i also agree that there is a general pattern....just that sometimes the patterns are broken. (say with anakin's ep.II robe for example)
I actually wear my saber on the left. HEHE:)
I'm sorry i cant post a pic, but i dont have a scanner available...anybody wanna post epIII vis dic. p. 37?
hope this is helpful,
TND
primrodo, since you seem to know a good bit about this...why is the mandate for samauri left over right and sword on left side?
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