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Post by Anakin Skywalker on Mar 24, 2005 15:41:16 GMT -5
Like I said before, it's fear that leads to the dark side. BakaNeko, the examples you gave were all examples of being afraid of losing the one you love. As long as you hold on to love, you will stay light and pure. If you let your fear consume you, as Anakin did, that is what leads you down the dark path. Fear that is brought upon because of the love, yes. If you don't love you have nothing to fear losing. |
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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 24, 2005 17:20:09 GMT -5
That's absolutely right. You don't have to fear losing a loved one. You don't have to fear losing your child. You don't have to fear losing love. Love is all you need. Without love, what are we?
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 24, 2005 18:21:00 GMT -5
Without love, what are we? A jedi without love is a jedi who can consentrate on what he/she is supposed to.(I'm not saying a nonjedi shouldn't love just that a jedi shouldn't) |
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Post by caswi-delcor on Mar 24, 2005 18:31:28 GMT -5
ahem....
a jedi shall not know anger,
nor hatred,
nor love.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Mar 24, 2005 18:46:34 GMT -5
Anikan is also a bit immmature and will whine when he doesn't get his way. he wants things right now weather or not the consiquences turn out bad.
Love goes hand in hand with experiance and maturity. Immaturity can and will cause people to make desicions that'll hurt them later.
The kid also has a VERY nasty temper that he never conquered. It can be done. used to have a nasty temper but through God, conquered it. It no longer has control over me but an unconditional love for al people does. I don't want to do any harm to people .
Maybe if Anikan have an unconditional love towards all people, even the Tuskans, he'd not have slaughtered them.
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 24, 2005 18:59:59 GMT -5
a jedi shall not know anger, nor hatred, nor love. Let me ask how can you argue with something that is straight out of the Jedi Code? |
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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 24, 2005 20:32:46 GMT -5
That's not part of the Jedi code. That's a tagline from the AOTC teaser poster. The Jedi Code is as follows:
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no death, there is the Force.
Next you will argue that emotion and passion are a part of love. I will argue back that they are not the sole constituents of love, and that the best love is peaceful and serene, when you know each other so thoroughly inside and out that you are one with them, and are in your calmest state when entwined with them. I believe that True Love is the essence of the Living Force, and it cannot lead you astray.
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Post by modeleers on Mar 24, 2005 20:48:03 GMT -5
Daddy did it!
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Post by caswi-delcor on Mar 24, 2005 20:48:53 GMT -5
taglines sometimes speak the truth........... :Plol
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Post by J'st-Peat on Mar 24, 2005 20:56:24 GMT -5
ahem.... a jedi shall not know anger, nor hatred, nor love. And that is why the Jedi fail. Jedi should know everything, a person who is without love is incomplete. To be jedi is to be one with the all things. "It surrounds us and binds." If Anakin could have had a wife while being a jedi, it begs the question would he have turned to the darkside? Would things have worked out differently? |
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 24, 2005 21:02:37 GMT -5
There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no death, there is the Force. . That is not all that there is to the Jedi Code, yes it is an important part but that isn't all that there is. You got There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no death, there is the Force. from the game and the game is based off of the movie but the game isn't going to tell you the whole Jedi Code. That is why they say a jedi isn't allowed to love because it is a part of the Jedi Code it just isn't stated in the game. |
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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 24, 2005 22:05:28 GMT -5
Which game are you talking about? Here is my reference to where I got it:
Stackpole, Michael A.; I, Jedi copyright 1998 by Lucasfilm Ltd. published by Bantam Books. Ch. 12. P. 135:
Saying that a Jedi shall not know love is a contradiction to the Jedi Code. Compassion is central to a Jedi's life.
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Post by caswi-delcor on Mar 24, 2005 22:07:32 GMT -5
the game he is probably refering to is KOTOR
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 24, 2005 22:13:09 GMT -5
Compassion and love are totally different  . Because you show compassion for someone doesn't mean you love them. That never said Luke finished the Jedi Code but more likely just said a part of it. |
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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 24, 2005 22:25:46 GMT -5
Compassion is the type of love you feel for all forms of life. Sympathetic and empathetic thoughts stem from compassion. For a real world example, Jesus preached compassion. He told his followers to love their friends AND their enemies, for people who do wrong don't know any better. I'm not religious, but I know a smart guy when I see him, and J.C. was a clever dude, regardless of whether or not he was divine (but lets not get into religion in this thread). All I'm saying is that if smart people like Jesus and Luke Skywalker say that love can keep you away from evil, then it must be a good thing.
As for the Jedi code, give me a source that says more. Until I get a quote from an EU book, or a letter from George Lucas telling me otherwise, I say those 4 lines are the constituents of the Jedi Code.
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. Because you show compassion for someone doesn't mean you love them. That never said Luke finished the Jedi Code but more likely just said a part of it.