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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Feb 21, 2006 21:36:30 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if the Tabbards were stitched to the Obi, the Obi was velcroed at the back in the middle, and the tabbards were also velcroed at the shoulders. That would make the Tabbards and Obi a single unit (easier to put on) and keep them secure (especially with the belt over the Obi.
About the Obi rolling over........isn't that a problem f it's too tight? Kinda like a cumberbund? to tight and it rolls over?
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 22, 2006 0:21:41 GMT -5
Well, it takes less fabric to make them that way, so, that might be, I've finally got a DVD player, now if I could just get some time to watch some of the extra footage stuff.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on May 17, 2006 21:28:55 GMT -5
This is how I did mine... it's cut on the bias, just like Anakin's is--- notice the grain of the fabric runs diagonally to the seam in that first picture. But the front of the obi is acually wider than the back. Then the lining (not stretchy) is cut to the acual size that the obi will be. The extra material in the front is then buched up and stretched precisely where I want wrinkles and the wrinkles are stitched in place-----built in wrinkles. So the end result is exactly what you see in these pics that Primrodo has posted (those are great shots, thanks!) I was going to snap a picture of mine just now but it's all pressed flat from being in the closet. I'll have to wash it first. Far as I have been able to tell there is a seam running along the edge on some Obi's, so I think they make it like the tabbards and then the wrinkles sewn in... I need to find the pics again... Heres the seam though: EDIT: Heres what I mean that athe wrinkles look built in:
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 18, 2006 16:47:59 GMT -5
Each fabric is differant, so I have to fiddle with them to see which sidem the bias or selvage has the right amount of strech. I want no more than maybe 1-2" of verticle stretch so as I breath it moves with me without causing discomfort.
I don't sew wrinkles in. I've three ways I sew the obi.
1. I cut the fabric on the bias 4 times widder than the intedned width, my waist size plus 7 inches long to accomidate the velcro closures at the ends. Fold it in half, then in half again, turn inside out and sew. Fold the ends in 1/4 " and hand stich closed, Sew velcro closures to ends.
2. Or Sometimes in the layering I sew both sides, then turn insideout and sew the ends. The wrinkles will come naturally as it's worn and how the body wil create the bunch from wearing and movement.
3rd. the traditional japanese obi which wraps around twice tying in the front. Ties are tucked intothe obi and hidden by the belt. THis method I use when i have no velcro to be found.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on May 18, 2006 22:46:10 GMT -5
I don't like having more wrapped around my waist than I need... I can't even stand having an undertunic that tucks in. But it's a matter of personal choice. Your costumes always lay so nice on you mynn.... whatever you're doing, keep doing it!
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 19, 2006 0:26:12 GMT -5
Thanks. I've even made improvements with what I'v learned from lots of people here. Hopefully I can pass it all along.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on May 19, 2006 1:50:59 GMT -5
Same here!
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Post by mooglar (Malim Vincible) on May 19, 2006 10:38:32 GMT -5
I pretty much do my obis the way you do them, Leda. That seems to work pretty well for me.
On the obi being sewn to the tabards issue from earlier, I believe Primrodo is right, that they aren't. There's a shot in AOTC when the remaining Jedi are in a circle on Geonosis in which you can see (I believe it is) Agen Kolar's back in the background, and his tabards have actually popped out from behind his obi and are hanging over it. So his definitely weren't sewn into the obi, though they probably are sewn (or attached with velcro) to the tunic because they aren't hanging loose and flapping around.
Unfortunately I don't have screen capture to post. But if you look for it, it's there.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 19, 2006 11:38:05 GMT -5
Opps wardrobe malfthingyion. LOL. Guess the wardrobe crew didn't pin them to the obi.
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Post by Seda Navilli on May 19, 2006 16:44:13 GMT -5
Well Agen Kolar doesnt have regular tabbards, but rather a long scarf in the style of Obi Wan ANH and Luke ROTJ. But You're still right about most tabbards not being sewn to the obi
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 19, 2006 19:15:13 GMT -5
Cutting the fabric for the obi on the bias...Ack! I'm glad I read this before I started working on a new obi. I looked at the pics in the Dressing A Galaxy book and Mace and young Anakin's obis are cut on the bias, too, along with Obi-Wan and adult Anakin. Darn, that takes more fabric.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on May 19, 2006 22:28:27 GMT -5
My tabbards are stitched to the back of the tunic, not to the Obi.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 25, 2006 18:00:57 GMT -5
I sewed a friend's tabbords to the back of her tunic. It's MUCH easier when there's a defiante waistline. then all I'd need to do is sew snaps. Now for the next incarnaition of tunics. I'm thinking fo velcroing them to the tunic's waist and velcroed, or snapped to the shoulders, so when the tunic needs washing, and the Tabbords don't, I can remove them. Wal-mart has velcro disks that'd be perfect for the shoulder attachment. Anyone else try this?
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Post by Nova Darklighter on May 25, 2006 21:15:49 GMT -5
I only use velcro when I can't get out of it, I use snaps to secure those spots.
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Post by mooglar (Malim Vincible) on May 25, 2006 22:06:21 GMT -5
I have tried using velcro for attaching the tabards to the waist. I found that it works well with leather or vinyl tabards, but I've been unimpressed with the results with cloth tabards. They pull and make "velcro" noises when you bend over and, if you have any tendency to mess with your costume, it's another to keep adjusting over and over. Plus, if you use velcro to attach your obi in the back, then it's hard to adjust one or the other without getting confused and accidentally messing up the other.
Since getting my dress form, I've found that sewing the tabards into place is the best bet. I've pretty much got my process down to sewing the tabards in place on the shoulders (and I've found that the tabards lay much better if I make about a 1 1/2 inch stitch starting at the shoulder seam and going back) and sewing the tabards in place in the back. In front, I've found that I don't really need to velcro or stitch them into place.
Just my experience, of course!
Oh, by the way, I think it is Sora Bulq who has the tabards hanging out. It's right after Obi-Wan bends down to check on one of the fallen Jedi on Geonosis. Look over his left shoulder.
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