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Post by Seda Navilli on Feb 15, 2006 8:41:56 GMT -5
okay, I've been looking at photos for a while and I think I've found the trick to getting your obi to look like it does in the movies. In fact its my opinion that this is how they did it in the movies, but thats up for debate. ;D Firstly, you need to make the material you're using just under twice the width of what you want the obi to be, then fold the top and bottom of the obi onto itself so that they meet halfway. This should be done away from the body, so that the edges meet in front of the obi. This is then covered by the belt. Because I'm rubbish at explaining stuff, heres a quick paint mockup to help illustrate what I mean; img244.imageshack.us/img244/4803/obitrick0ci.jpgOverall this gives a good bunching effect to the obi, and keeps it looking nice and thick, as they should. |
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Post by Cha-Al Pesan on Feb 15, 2006 12:16:20 GMT -5
That is pretty much what I did with my obi. I just folded the fabric and sowed the bottom. I then added some Velcro on the ends so I could close it in the back. Looks good and does give it that movie look.
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Post by obiwally on Feb 15, 2006 13:41:14 GMT -5
my question would be, does it have to match the exact fabric of the tunic or should it be thicker/not as thick.... i'm going to match the colors up for sure...
right now the obi/tabbard are all i'm missing aside from a more proper pair of pants
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 16, 2006 0:27:54 GMT -5
No, they can be different, unless you're going for a Specific character and not just generic Jedi or more character specific to you. I've done some in other fabrics and also in lighter or darker colours on some of mine. Like I have a brown ckinkle fabric that has obi & tabbards in brown linen, I also have an indeterminate shade of khaki/grey/green that I wear with either matching or natural or the brown linen obi & tabbards, what I can find or what's clean or just how I'm in the mood to do it that time or sometimes, which pants or skirt I'm wearing with it as well. Mix & Match Jedi.
As to the way to make an obi, that looks similar to what I do, but I also line it with a couple of layers of interlining in the obi (to prevent rolling and crumpleing over the belt), not the tabbards, though I usually topstich those, because I like a finished look, though that might not be a film thing, it shows less on the flat fabrics than on the crinkles, but it keeps the crinkles in better shape than when they aren't topstiched
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 16, 2006 0:42:35 GMT -5
Far as I have been able to tell there is a seam running along the edge on some Obi's, so I think they make it like the tabbards and then the wrinkles sewn in... I need to find the pics again... Heres the seam though:   EDIT: Heres what I mean that athe wrinkles look built in:  |
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 16, 2006 1:03:05 GMT -5
That's a great shot, glad that you posted it. What I meant was, that after I turn the fabric back to the right side out after sewing it, I usually sew the seam in place in a method called topstiching, it's a way of finishing, though they don't use it in the films, it would go on the top, about 1/4 to 3/8 inch in from the edge of the obi, it's used to keep the seam from rolling or raveling, and also will keep the interlining in place more securly.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Feb 16, 2006 18:45:38 GMT -5
Oh, those are such nice pictures! Thanks for posting those Primrodo! And the seams on the obi, too! I generally put the seams on the obi on the inside of mine. Nice to see where Obi-Wan's meets in the back. My obi wraps around twice, but Obi-Wan's movie costume looks like the obi is attached to the tunic.
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 16, 2006 18:50:41 GMT -5
Attached to the tunic? Still seems seperate to me...
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Feb 17, 2006 14:50:06 GMT -5
It looks like the back of the tabbards might be attatched to the back of the obi, but not the tunic itself...
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Feb 17, 2006 15:30:19 GMT -5
Yep, Tabbords and obi are attached. But not every jedi's is like that. It tends to scoot up and look weird unless you attach the shoulders of the tabbords to the over tunic with velcro or somehing.
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 17, 2006 17:37:08 GMT -5
I always assumed the tabards are attached at the back, velcroed at the top (anakins is anyway I have proof there) but the Obi attached to the tunic? Even teh tabards attached to the obi isn't something I have heard?
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 18, 2006 0:10:24 GMT -5
The Obi would not really be functional if it were attached to the tunic, but it does appear that Obi wan's tabbards are stiched to his Obi in the back, but I think that it's because his, unlike most end at the Obi and are not longer in the back like the majority of them are worn. Seems to be his idiosyncracy in Jedi style. I think that most of them are velcroed at the shoulders for practical purposes during filming, to prevent the slippage problem, especially during fight/action sequences.
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 18, 2006 9:48:45 GMT -5
Well from looking though pictures of the Jedi, most actually are the same, Anakin included (though his leather ones go past)
For the most part, very few jedi have tabards that go past the waist at the back. Qui-Gon and Bultar Swann is all that comes to mind...
How are you seeing it attached to the Obi?
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 19, 2006 17:15:04 GMT -5
They seemed to me to be stiched. I think that more of them are longer, but you don't see that many of them from the back. Not that many bun shots.
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 19, 2006 18:40:21 GMT -5
From alot of the behind the scenes stuff from AOTC you can see that most have the Obi-Wan style tabards, only Qui, Ani and Bultar from my knowledge.
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