BakaNeko
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Post by BakaNeko on May 20, 2005 13:04:37 GMT -5
I remember Palpatine saying that one of the powers that Dark Lord posssessed and passed on to his apprentice (Palpatine) was the power to manipulate midi-chlorians to create life. That gave me the thought that Palpatine used that power and teh result was Anakin. Perhaps he foresaw his birth and traveled to Tatooine and used the power on his mother. I dont know, does anyone else have any thoughts about this or facts that have been released?
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Post by Aston Jor-Cello on May 20, 2005 13:18:00 GMT -5
Never really have seen any facts regarding this concept but, that is a interesting thought, never really looked at it that way before. I mean that would make the ending between Anakin and Palpatine more fitting and symbolic somehow like when Vader throws the Emperor down the reactor shaft in ROTJ.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on May 20, 2005 13:57:22 GMT -5
I had that thought a while back as well. Father, son, and grandpa. Wow.
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Post by BakaNeko on May 25, 2005 12:06:20 GMT -5
Also, when Anakin first arrived on Coruscant in Episode I, Palpatine right away took interest in Anakin. Especially near the end when he made the comment that he's going to keep an close eye on Anakin's career or something close to it, cant remember
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 25, 2005 16:39:19 GMT -5
Anakin could easily have been created by Papatine's master (whose name I don't know how to spell), but Palpatine may not have been in on that project. Chance and the Force brought Anakin to the Jedi and Palpatine. Anakin did actually bring balance to the Force. He just took a loooong time going about it. And Palpatine was brought down by the creation of the master he murdered, assuming that Anakin was really that creation. Shmi Skywalker was a slave. Who was her owner before the Hutts and then Watto got her? A Sith lord would be the kind of person who would have slaves.
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Post by devineoin on May 25, 2005 20:38:47 GMT -5
I have always loved the tragic irony of the prophecy about Anakin. He brought balance to the Force between Episodes III and IV... By the time IV starts there's two Sith Lords and two Jedis... The Emporer and Vader and Yoda and Kenobi... The prophecy was right, he brought balance, just not the balance everyone expected...
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Post by Bel-Den Shaw on May 26, 2005 0:51:23 GMT -5
yoda even said that "a profecy we may have misread"
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Post by Parga Carwis on May 26, 2005 1:07:48 GMT -5
We've been discussing the whole maybe-the-sith-created-Anakin-theory since we read the book about 2 weeks before the movie - makes sense to me. Historically, the Sith killed each other off over power - and since Anakin was "born of the Force", he would be soooo powerful as a Jedi, not to mention if he didn't use restraint & went hard-core Dark Side. Interesting theory, I think. Nice to know we're not the only folks who've thought of it...
And the whole prophecy thing - it still boggles my mind that out of 10,000 Jedi, not one of them stopped to mention to Yoda or Mace or anyone else the fact that the equation of 2 Sith = 10,000 Jedi does not equal, much less 0 Sith. Sheesh - they learned the Force, but they were weak on their mathematics...
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Post by kivaanzion on May 26, 2005 8:24:58 GMT -5
This has been discussed on another board and Mon-Jas Charan mention this in another thread- It depends on the meaning of "balance". Although most of us see balance in it's most basic terms (being equal on both sides), balance could have meant this: The Jedi are the keepers of the Force both Light and Dark. The Sith are anomalies that come along occasionally and disrupt the Force (as they wish the universe to be in chaos by hording all the Force power and attempting to eliminate the Light side, causing an imbalance of the Forces- thus the term "great disturbance in the Force"). Therefore in order for there to be balance (harmony between the Light and Dark sides) the Sith must be eliminated. But all this depends greatly on your point of view.
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Post by Parga Carwis on May 26, 2005 9:25:20 GMT -5
I see the point, Ki Vaan - thank you for opening my eyes to this! You're correct, I had only thought of it in terms of the literal meaning of balance. I now have a different angle to debate with my friends...
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on May 26, 2005 21:50:10 GMT -5
As far as the prophecy goes, I like a cartoon I had read with Yoda and Mace Windu discussing what balance could mean.
Mace Windu doing it with coffee and cream while Yoda did it with grains of salt and sugar.
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Post by kivaanzion on May 27, 2005 6:04:40 GMT -5
Ultimately Anakin did bring balance to the Force (when he destroyed Palpatine in ROTJ). It just took a looooong time for him to do it. I guess you could say it was a case of things getting worse before they get better. Coffee and cream... sugar and salt... OK I'm completely intrigued! Do you remember how that cartoon went?
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Post by BakaNeko on May 27, 2005 11:39:52 GMT -5
Do you remember how that cartoon went? I believe that cartoon was in the first or second book of Star Wars Tales from Dark Horse comics. You will need to get it or find it in book store and read it, its pretty funny.
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Jun 8, 2005 23:31:48 GMT -5
Thast how I see it too.. Although I am told by people that Ani wasn't the one to bring balance. it was Luke..
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Post by BakaNeko on Jun 9, 2005 9:47:34 GMT -5
Although I am told by people that Ani wasn't the one to bring balance. it was Luke.. You need to tell those people to watch ROTJ again. If you see, while Luke is being all wimpy and such while getting electrocuted by the Emporer Anakin throws him over the railing and thus, resulting in balance. Also side note, I just recently read the Rolling Stones magazine, with Vader on the cover. There is an interview with George Lucas and one question that comes up is regarding Anakin's connection to the Sith. He said in the legend of Darth Plageus, one of the powers was being able to effect the midi-clorians in such a way that he could create life. Lucas said that there is no actual fact that theres a connection between the legend and Anakin, he only hinted a bit. He said that he's leaving it up to audiences to think or believe what they want about it.
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