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Post by Xana on Aug 7, 2002 21:55:37 GMT -5
Did he, or did he not have an apprentice before Xanatos? I have heard he did and that he didn't. Does anyone know? And what was his name?
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Post by Xana on Aug 7, 2002 22:06:32 GMT -5
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Aug 10, 2002 1:46:09 GMT -5
I think, given his age, he probably had at least one before Xanatos, there isn't that long a gap between he and Obi Wan, a few years, I belive I remember Xanatos only being about 19 or 20, and only a bit older than Obi Wan, who is 13 at the start of the series. But if there were say a gap of 5 or 6 years, + say 5 or 6 years w/Xanatos as a Padawan, say Qui Gonn was 22 when he passed his trials, that still leaves around 20 years as a Jedi Knight where he could have trained at least 1 if not 2 Padawans.
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Post by Eqin Ilis on Sept 10, 2002 17:50:35 GMT -5
I've always heard that Qui-Gon had another apprentice before Xanatos, but no one knows who he was. And I visited the link... where did it say Qui-Gon only had one before Obi-Wan?
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Post by Xana on Sept 11, 2002 9:24:36 GMT -5
It says so somewhere in the one of the first 2 or 3 Jedi Apprentice books. Forget exactly where. It looks like the story got a little screwed up. Just an inconsistancy I guess. Here's where it hints at that in the above link:
"Though Qui-Gon defeated Xanatos, he could not bear to kill his own Padawan. The defeated student fled and Qui-Gon obsessed over his failure for years, dismissing his earlier successes as a teacher and often referring to Xanatos as his "first" apprentice."
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Post by Eqin Ilis on Sept 11, 2002 10:40:24 GMT -5
Um... Xana... you missed something.
"Though Qui-Gon defeated Xanatos, he could not bear to kill his own Padawan. The defeated student fled and Qui-Gon obsessed over his failure for years, dismissing his earlier successes as a teacher and often referring to Xanatos as his "first" apprentice."
So he had "earlier successes as a teacher", which I took to mean an earlier apprentice. I guess he was just so upset he didn't care about that one. Maybe he thought he/she was too easy to train, so he/she didn't count as an apprentice. And the reason I underlined "first" was to draw attention to the fact that they used quotation marks. That usually means that the word in question isn't actually true. Hope this helps.
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Post by Schph Gochi on Sept 12, 2002 4:25:59 GMT -5
Jeez...
I just finished reading those novels and I have forgotten already....
if he had another apprentice...I don't remember the author ever giving a name..
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Post by Eqin Ilis on Sept 12, 2002 12:28:12 GMT -5
I've never found it in the books. And on the starwars.com mbs, no one knows his name. I guess the author thought that was too much detail. ::sigh::
PS Can you tell I've researched this before? LOL
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Post by Xana on Sept 12, 2002 13:28:39 GMT -5
That's IS how I understood it, too, Eqin.;D And no, the "first"apprentice's name was never mentioned.... that I know of.
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Post by Jade1 on Sept 12, 2002 16:28:36 GMT -5
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Post by Xana on Sept 13, 2002 21:23:49 GMT -5
You're welcome! Reading Joseph Campbell, I see, huh? Lots of SW references you will find in his books. After all, that's who helped Goerge on the Original Trilogy.;D
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Post by Jade1 on Sept 14, 2002 4:01:51 GMT -5
Like Joshph Campbel alot. Its alot to take in so I'm takin my time. Found anotehr of his books at the Half priced book store and will go back later for it. My husband kinda freaked when he saw all the books I got. I'm lookin for the celistine profocy by James reedfield. I think you recomended it at one time Xana but I'm not sure. My fried in AZ brought it up and I thought it sounded familiar. Any way well see. Reading is so fun. I love it.
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Post by Xana on Sept 14, 2002 19:58:51 GMT -5
The Celistine Phrophesy? Nope, that wasn't me. I recomended The Secret Doctrine of the Rosecrucians. Just some light reading. lol!
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Post by Jade1 on Sept 14, 2002 23:48:05 GMT -5
 Got it I recall now my fried just said it over and over. Added yourse to the list gotta finish some I started
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Post by Schph Gochi on Sept 29, 2002 8:13:13 GMT -5
I think I finally have the answer to this one...
Chapter 11 of Jedi Apprentice #15 .."The Death of Hope"..
This chapter indicates that Xanatos was Qui-Gon's first apprentice...
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:DOk so I finally got hooked into the series. Now I'm fightin my step son over the book. He won so I have to read it when he is in bed we are on 2 they were out of one at the half priced book store. We also started the young Jedi Knights series also. I read multipul books at once also in the middle of Traitor and Started The hero with a thousand faces. but love the Qui gon Xanatoes tohing awsome and I can read them in one day!!! 