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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Apr 2, 2007 1:39:16 GMT -5
Could we make a list of all the fabrics we can use to make our inner or outer tunics?
I've read some of the threads & I located natural osnaburg & calcutta/crinkle cotton, bubble cotton & raw silk noire.
Osnaburg is still a strong contender out there.
Last year I had no problem locating calcutta in the browns. This year is a complete dead end. I did locate a brown calcutta but it doesn't look anything like the calcutta I have from last year.
Since the Walmarts are going to stop carrying fabrics eventually it's going to be a bit tougher to locate materials at a cheap price.
I have been to Joanne Fabrics, Han c ocks,(at home & online Fabrics.com & ebay to locate calcutta/crinkle cotton or some kind of homespun---nothing. Unless they have it listed under a different name, which is possible.
Any other good outer tunic ideas? Though I know they've probably been listed already.
I was in need of some cream calcutta & maybe some chocolate brown. I would like something with a weave to it, if possible, that looks homespun.
I'm open to any suggestions. Thanks
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Apr 3, 2007 22:17:11 GMT -5
For undertunic, I prefer crinkle cotton. It has a nice texture, isn't too hot and has bit of stretch. I've tried plain, stretchy white cotton and that works fine, too. So, cotton really is the best bet for me. However, the stretch has ALWAYS caused problems with fitting the collar and making it lay flat when I make undertunics. A little velcro at the base of the 'V' at the neck helps.
Silk, with a matte texture, would be a comfortable undertunic, but if it doesn't have any stretch, that would be best if you were just doing the collar and sleeves. Silk in a stretch weave is very hard to find, but you can find silk with 2-3% spandex or lycra that should work fine, but I haven't tried it.
I have tried cotton, silk and linen for tunics and they all work fine. You could also try blends of these as well. Cotton and linen are easiest to wash, dry and care for, but linen needs to be ironed more, though cotton does, too. Silk is closer to what they have in the movies, but to make it last longer wash only on delicate and air dry.
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Apr 4, 2007 1:01:08 GMT -5
Thank you. Silk/ but what kind of silk unless you are referring to raw silk noire, which I do have.
I was just thinking of what some of these fabrics might be called.
I'm wondering if calcutta, for instance has a different name besides calcutta or crinkle cotton.
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Post by mattkym on Apr 4, 2007 19:23:06 GMT -5
If I were to do custom fan Jedi, I would prefer waffle cotton, and crinkle it to make it look very close to Anakin ROTS. Except, not leather tabards. Right now, Primrodo got the fabric for me and is in making for Anakin ROTS costume. Hopefully receive it by next week.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Apr 4, 2007 22:46:51 GMT -5
Raw silk noil is the kind I'm thinking of for a tunic or undertunic. Or any kind of coarsely woven silk that does NOT have a sheen to it. China silk is good for lining the tunic. It has a little sheen to it, but it is subtle and it looks like the lining in Obi-Wan's tunic in ROTS.
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Post by Schph Gochi on Apr 5, 2007 5:28:41 GMT -5
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on May 14, 2007 20:22:40 GMT -5
For undertunic, I prefer crinkle cotton. It has a nice texture, isn't too hot and has bit of stretch. I've tried plain, stretchy white cotton and that works fine, too. So, cotton really is the best bet for me. However, the stretch has ALWAYS caused problems with fitting the collar and making it lay flat when I make undertunics. A little velcro at the base of the 'V' at the neck helps. I did something very unorthodox when sewing my outer tunic to help with the stretching problem. (OK, I still have to put on the skirt...) When I made the inner tunic, I used the crinkle cotton "gauze" which I loved but had serious problems with stretching -- especially attaching the neck band to the front pieces that cross over, which are cut on the bias. When I cut out my outer tunic pieces (crinkle cotton a/k/a Calcutta), to the face of every seam allowance I taped that blue masking tape one uses when painting -- the easy to remove blue masking tape (DON'T use regular masking tape which is TOO STICKY!!) I used the 1" wide tape and cut (w/office shears NOT fabric shears) in strips 1/2" wide and taped along the edges, leaving a bit of clearance for stitching (assuming one uses 5/8" seam allowances). You can tear the tape in short pieces to go around arm holes or other curves. Then stitch and remove the tape as soon as you're done sewing (so you don't forget  ) This really helped with the stretching issue -- I had almost NO problems with fitting the pieces together. Two pieces of advice -- 1.) I would probably NOT try this on silk, but it was great for the cotton. 2.) I would not leave the tape on the fabric for more than a couple of days MAX. -- you have to plan ahead and not cut out too much to sew at one time. I love the look (and price!) of the crinkle cotton, but it is heavy/bulky. Next go around, I'm thinking the osnaburg or even silk... |
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 17, 2007 18:39:36 GMT -5
Hmmmmm, blue painter's masking tape. Interesting way of getting everything to stay put for sewing. I haven't had enough problems with my Jedi fabrics that I can't just use pins, but I can think of other, problem costume fabrics that this could be very useful for. Thanks!
The crinkle cotton was too heavy? Usually, I can only make an undertuic out of it because its so thin, like Anakin's undertunic in ATOC.
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Post by Schph Gochi on May 18, 2007 4:06:00 GMT -5
I have purchased three different weights of crinkle cotton... one is very gauzy....and thin...I have used that for undertunics one is medium weight...yet still a little see-through...have used that with a lining for outer tunic.. and one is a heavy weight...I still have that un-cut ...but plan to eventually make another outer tunic with it...and it won't need lining... |
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Post by Darcu RyMal on May 18, 2007 7:47:03 GMT -5
I feel your pain about the fabric. I had only been able to find a couple of yards of crinkle cotton at any Wal-Mart I had looked...and there were MANY. Any time I travel, which is a lot, I usually made a Wal-Mart stop to check-out their fabric section for Jedi stuff.
Finally, I located a linen at JoAnn's that seems really great. It has the great crinkle look to it, but because it's a linen blend it should wash very well, too. I seem to have found that places like JoAnn's and Hanthingys selection really depend on the season, where Wal-Mart's discount table is made of contents they cannot order, but are just selected and shipped by their distribution centers.
After making one tunic from the scraps of crinkle cotton I found, it really didn't lay very well on me. The linen crinkle lays much better imho.
Good luck finding what you need!
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on May 18, 2007 16:01:01 GMT -5
Just to clarify on the weird tape thing -- I did pin stuff together in the conventional manner. The tape was used to keep the edges from stretching as I pinned stuff together, especially parts that had to be "eased" to fit, such as the sleeve to the armhole and the neck band to the body. I had purchased some iron-on edge stabilizer but decided not to use it b/c ironing would alter the effect of the crinkle fabric.  Regarding the heaviness, for the tabards I'm using another length of the same crinkle that I purchased at a later date. It is much less textured/heavy so I suspect that pre-washing in hot water (which I did on purpose to pre-shrink) probably caused the fabric to "bulk up" as well as crinkle. I'll see if my theory holds up when I pre-wash this second batch. Except for hemming, my tunic is finished and I am pleased with the overall look, so I may have been overly-critical the other day.  But I would make the tunic in a bit smaller size next time to cut out some of the bulk. And I think Schph is right about 3 different weights -- I have a short end-of-bolt piece of cream-colored I'll use for tabards with an osnaburg tunic and it seems to be an "in-between" weight. Darcu, to my recollection I have purchased all of my crinkles at Hanthingy's -- Joann's has carried them but they seem to have a too high percentage of synthetic fiber (read: HOT). |
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Post by mattkym on Jun 21, 2007 2:03:20 GMT -5
As Iain McCaig said that Indian Homespun were used for the Jedi tunics, right?
But Indian Homespun fabric isn't proven before, right?
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jun 21, 2007 3:05:57 GMT -5
The Jedi tunic fabrics varied...depending on the Jedi.
Obi-Wan's in The Phantom Menace was wool crepe....
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Jun 21, 2007 11:48:08 GMT -5
Silk jersy for the under TUnic's arms and collar would work IF the blasted stuff cna be found. It has some stretch. But since I can't find silk jersy, I use cotton gauze from Dharma trading company for the arms and collar and a white Under Armour compression cap sleeve T-shirt for the body. It has a "V" neck so alteraitions aren't extensive.
I wonder if wool crepe is itchy?
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Post by AMP on Jun 21, 2007 12:02:45 GMT -5
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But I would make the tunic in a bit smaller size next time to cut out some of the bulk.
