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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Feb 5, 2006 13:22:35 GMT -5
Someone posted this on one of the tff.net forums and I had to connect to it here.  Look at the hem on Obi-Wan's tunic! And no lining on the skirt of the tunic, too. |
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 5, 2006 18:51:31 GMT -5
Well, I've never lined more than the sleeves and the bodice (from the waist up) on mine, but why line it? It is really a couture thing, especially in this type of garment. I line the top 1/2 of mine for structural things, I guess they line the sleeves for a similar reason (so the slide over the under tunic sleeves easily) most likely, I guess. Great details in the shot though, glad you posted it, thanks Ani.  |
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Feb 8, 2006 20:17:28 GMT -5
Great pix. It's a help. With this help I won't have to worry about lining the skirts of the outer tunics I'm attempting to make.
What I noticed in Ep 2 the skirt part did look lined--or was I seeing things?
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 8, 2006 23:47:43 GMT -5
I'll have to watch it again, can't remember off the top of my head.
Primrodo are you out there? Do you recall?
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 8, 2006 23:53:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure, its hard to tell simply from pictures, the hem is wider in AOTC (1") So it MAY be, but I am unsure.
Anyone recall Obi-Wan falling or flipping where you can see?
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Feb 9, 2006 19:52:59 GMT -5
The best place to look would the the arena fight scene. It's well lit and he's not wearing his robe. And possibly when he's hanging onto the assassain droid in traffic?
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Feb 11, 2006 20:06:39 GMT -5
Nova,
Why DO the couture seamstresses and tailor do that if it's not for a structural reason? Odd huh. is it for a certain look? Does it make the garment lay differantly?
Janqui, I think his tunic is entirly lined in Episode 2 and his tabbords are lined. In my opinion, like Nova, I 'd only line the tunic sleeves and upper body. I'd only fully line it IF the fabric is too loight or I jsut wanna full around and see how it'd look.
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Post by Seda Navilli on Feb 13, 2006 4:40:14 GMT -5
Not too much of a surprise, his tunic was far lighter (meaning weight) in ep 1 than the others. Maybe they only lined his tunic from AOTC on...
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 15, 2006 0:29:15 GMT -5
It is partly structural when they do it, but mostly it is because it looks much more finished as in you should be able to wear a really well done couture garment inside out and not look to weird. Seda, the Ep I fabric is heavier so doesn't need lining. I think that Ep II is not lined in the skirt, but does have a wider and I might add, more neatly done, hem. I think it;s most likely that the fabric of the entire tunic in Ep III is lined, it is a much looser looking weave or knit and probaly needs the structural support, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Feb 15, 2006 19:55:59 GMT -5
Going by the fabric sample in the Dressing a Galaxy book, Obi-Wan's Ep III tunic was a loose, stretchy, silk weave. It absolutely needed to be lined! Everywhere, including the skirt. It looked good on screen, but I'd never pick that for a costume; stretchy things are always hard to line.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Feb 15, 2006 20:52:51 GMT -5
Yeah me neither. I'd NEVER ever wear a stretchy fabric for a over tunic. I made one once,when it got wet it stretched down to the man's knees.
I'll be making a few raw silk over tunics and I'll line them.
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Feb 16, 2006 0:17:20 GMT -5
Strch fabric sewing takes practice and the right machines and also the the right feet on the machines as well as the right stich, tension setting and thread. I'm not a fan of strech fabrics either, though, I'm getting more practice on them in the last year or so, and the machines are different too, my old treadle will not stich properly on poly strech knits, the one serger will, but only works right with the overlock stich, can't use the safty stich because the stiches pop as soon as the fabric is streched, but the other serger is made for strech fabrics as are at least two of my more modern machines, the Riccar & the Bernina, my first electric machine didn't sew the strech stuff properly because it was a straight stich only type of machine, like the treadle, the stiches break when you strech the fabric.
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Feb 21, 2006 20:37:13 GMT -5
On the 3 tunics that I have about 90% finished. I just have to finish hemming the sleeves & skirts.
2 are crinkle cotton & I've got a removable inner lining that I may wear if I feel I need to. They feel good without the lining.
1 raw silk which I'm completely lining because of how the material likes to sticks to itself.
I can honestly say now I Think I've learned how to make a Jedi tunic, not perfectly but I can say they are starting to look real good. Of course I still have to make the tabbords & the obi for each one but I'm sure that they will work out.
Last June I wouldn't have even considered on making a Jedi costume myself, the thought of even thinking about doing it terrified me.
I want to thank the more experienced costumers in TJA for all their help.
Is it easy to make a Jedi costume?---No, but it is definitely a challenge.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Feb 21, 2006 22:07:57 GMT -5
Please post pictures when you get them done. There's nothing better than showing off your costume work.
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