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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 23, 2005 5:33:54 GMT -5
The lining is attatched only at the shoulders and the waist... not at the bottoms of any of the hems... at least on mine. Not certain about Obi-Wan's. His look attatched. I wasn't sure about this before... never got a good look under the tunic... but you can see it here. The lining is definitely not attached at the hem.... it just hangs free. Like I said before... always looking for new views of this costume.... |
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Post by Primrodo on Nov 23, 2005 8:21:06 GMT -5
heh maybe came unattached?
I have a couple anakin pics from C3 that shows under the skirt and you can see the lining going into the hem..
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 23, 2005 20:41:23 GMT -5
heh maybe came unattached? I have a couple anakin pics from C3 that shows under the skirt and you can see the lining going into the hem.. Right, that's how I thought it was. I believe Obi-Wan's sleeves are like that. I remember seeing that Anakin's lining is tucked into the hem. Maybe they did Obi's hem differently than Ani's because of the different types of fabric used for each costume? I don't know... just speculating... Or maybe it's just a different costume? I think they said he had like twelve or something... Maybe they needed a little more "swing" in that scene? Or maybe it came apart from all the action... I will say that after leaving my tunic's lining unattached, I really does hang better. The loose weave of the fabric makes it lengthen when you wear it just from gravity, and the two layers end up being uneven in less than a day. I'm glad I didn't sew them together. |
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 24, 2005 12:03:10 GMT -5
That's why I'm going to stick with tunic fabrics that don't have any stretch to them. And I don't even line my tunics! Obi-Wan's tunic fabric must have been picked for the cool looking texture and how nice it looks onscreen, but it's still impractical for a hall costume. I strive for easy-care Jedi-Wear. 
In general, I do not hang up any costumes that have much stretch to the fabric. Over time they will get out of shape just being on a hanger. I fold them and put them in a storage bin, or put them in a plastic bag and hang that from the hanger with the parts of the costume that don't stretch.
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Post by Seda Navilli on Nov 24, 2005 12:34:49 GMT -5
Yeah I noticed that too, thats why whenever I'm not wearing my costume... its on my display mannequin!
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Nov 24, 2005 14:55:39 GMT -5
My lining is attached alone the sleve hem to the elbows and the sleeve hole. It hangs free at the bottom of the tunic and sleeve ends. I don't have a skirt to mine. I only did an "A" line and put darts in the right places. I'm trying to figure out how to attach the lining to the sleeve ends. Leda, you've seen it up close. DO you ahve any ideas, tips etc to offer?
I like to use natural fabrics. They breath well. The convention the hotel was actually COLD. With all my layers I still shivered like mad. I wished I had my over robe. Instead I ran around woith a mug of hot tea, coco or coffee.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 25, 2005 3:14:24 GMT -5
Your lining is attached along the sleeve seam, from the armpit to the elbow, right?
I think that to attach it to the rest you would have to undo the seams and sew the lining into them. Or, you could try blindstitching the lining to the inside hem...
I haven't figured out how to do that nice tucked into the hem lining that's on Obi-Wan's sleeves. I actually did try to do it on this last costume, but I couldn't get it right... I ended up losing too much length from the silk sleeve lining due to mistakes, so I just hemmed it and left it to hang free.
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Post by Seda Navilli on Nov 25, 2005 12:04:08 GMT -5
My lining is sewn into the "hem" of the sleeves, but its not really a hem, because the sleeve is not sewn onto itself, its just pressed at the right length. This seemed like the most accurate way to do it at the time, when I only had pics from c3 like this to go by;  I did the base of the "skirt" in the same way, but with a much smaller "hem". I'll have to really study the rots dvd... |
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 25, 2005 19:33:35 GMT -5
I haven't figured out how to do that nice tucked into the hem lining that's on Obi-Wan's sleeves. I actually did try to do it on this last costume, but I couldn't get it right... I ended up losing too much length from the silk sleeve lining due to mistakes, so I just hemmed it and left it to hang free.
Nice? Nice? Now,, the lining fabric looks nice, but the lining in Obi-Wan's sleeves is all bunchy inside the sleeves, like it's trying to get out.   No, I like my lining to lay flat on the inside, not all poofy inside the sleeves. Yes, I shall forgo the hazards of lining for now.
Back to the original topic...I'm beginning to wonder if all the tunics in the movies are two-part, or at least cut with an A-line angle in the body. They seem to have a certain amount of swing to them in the skirt that looks good in fighting scenes. This especially makes the Jedi tunics look different from karate gis, which are always straight up-and-down on the side.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Nov 26, 2005 14:15:45 GMT -5
Leda,
I'd turned the finished tunic and lining "inside" out. Layed the seam bck to back and sewed very carefully stopping three inches from the armpit. The 'in the hem' look, I think I'd made it the small length as the outter fabric, serge the ends, then fold it over, iron and sew. Hopefully it'll lay flat and avoid the bunchy look.
Ani,,
I'd think the tunics would be a little differant depending on the size and shape of the wearer. From what I'd read in some books, the acters and actresses' are called to wardrobe, measureed and things are made to fit them depending on the look the director is looking for. Butler's tunic doesn't look like Obi Wan's or Anikan's. neither does Plo Kon's or Agen Koler.(Long dress-like tunic.)
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 26, 2005 22:57:23 GMT -5
That's what I was going for with my sleeves... but it didn't work... I messed it up. It looks like the lining is longher than the hemmed sleeve. Guess, I'll just have to try, try, again! |
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Post by JediKai on Nov 27, 2005 3:45:45 GMT -5
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 28, 2005 0:42:12 GMT -5
That does help alot--- Thanks! I'm going to be making a dark brown tunic next, so I'll have an opportunity to try the "bag lining" method.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 3, 2006 17:51:54 GMT -5
bump... so I can find this when I need it! lol!
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 5, 2006 22:52:03 GMT -5
Really? You mean his RotS tunic? Looking..... Wow, I see no side seams.... hmmm. None......I know his AotC tunic has a seam because I copied it from the Obi-Wan stand up I have. It has the felled seam that Ani mentioned. I never even thought to look to see if there was one on the costume on display at CIII. Hmmmmm, I was just thinking of this, and I wonder how the bottom part of Obi-Wan's tunic could NOT have a side seam concealed in there somewhere. If it's a circle skirt, it would have to be in one piece, but maybe it's just a curved shape? Or a circle? With the inside edge that has the same length as the bottom of the top of the tunic. Interesting idea. |
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No, I like my lining to lay flat on the inside, not all poofy inside the sleeves. Yes, I shall forgo the hazards of lining for now.