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Post by tanzanlinnear on Jun 6, 2005 11:44:49 GMT -5
Speaking from experience, as a fencer and taking years of kendo, it'll be hard to learn how to sword fight, dualling, or sparring from reading a web site. Video tutoral may not work either. It would be much easier to learn from a master of the arts than web site tutoral. Sorry man. This was my feeling too. A website (even with video tutorials) can show someone how to hold and manipulate a sword, but it can't teach them how to actually use those positions in a duel, because that's a skill that can only be learned through practice against a living opponent  |
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Post by Valis Korriban on Jun 7, 2005 6:17:32 GMT -5
you know what dude, there are websites dedicated to people's dogs! If you wanna make a website that shows you practicing saber styles you've experimented with, I say go for it. A Fencer, a Kendo kai, an SCA fighter, etc doesn't know exactly what lightsaber fighting is, basically because none of those styles of fighting is the exact style used. Nick Gillard himself said that he took a variety of styles ranging from Kendo, to Tree chopping! Take it from the master's mouth himself (Nick Gillard) encorporate a variety of techniques and go for it if it's what you want to do.
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Jun 7, 2005 6:18:37 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to see how the "7 lightsaber forms" would be protrayed.
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Post by Valis Korriban on Jun 7, 2005 6:27:34 GMT -5
Tell me about it, I've read and read, even tried to watch the movies, I know they say that each Jedi uses a certian style, well, wouldn't a great Jedi hold several styles and cycle through them depending on the situation. It's what I would do...
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Post by Seda Navilli on Jun 7, 2005 6:45:22 GMT -5
The thing is that Nick Gillard said that he had no idea what the "7 styles" were, he just choreographed each fight as they would develop. Mace Windu has a certain style because samuel L jackson said that since he was supposed to be the most dangerous sword fighter in the galaxy, he shouldnt be doing anything fancy, just real quick, aggressive, get the job done kind of stuff.
I think that the movies and the scriptures based on SW are two very different things, and are made to compliment each other
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Post by Valis Korriban on Jun 7, 2005 7:10:57 GMT -5
lol Mace wasn't all that was he? ;D
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Post by Primrodo on Jun 7, 2005 10:00:06 GMT -5
7 forms....don't exist, only in the minds of silly EU writers  Gillard said he had 38 moves, and each person created a unique style unto themselves. And thats normal in any technique, from broadsowrd to Kendo. Some are more regimented others allow for more personalization. |
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Jun 7, 2005 10:20:02 GMT -5
I think the only forms that really distinguish themselves, are II, III and IV, because the movements of the body is as important as the manipulation of the blade. I can't personally see a difference between V and VII  |
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Jun 7, 2005 19:43:56 GMT -5
I think the only difference between V and VII is intent.
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Jun 8, 2005 5:17:01 GMT -5
Yes, I'd agree with that.
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Jun 16, 2005 1:51:31 GMT -5
Form 7 should NOT have been done by Sam Jackson, they really butcher his fights. Sad really.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Jun 17, 2005 2:17:22 GMT -5
7 forms....don't exist, only in the minds of silly EU writers Gillard said he had 38 moves, and each person created a unique style unto themselves. And thats normal in any technique, from broadsowrd to Kendo. Some are more regimented others allow for more personalization. This is correct. I suppose if the 7 EU styles were invented based on the personal styles adopted by the actors, then you might be able to pick them out in RotS, even though NG knew nothing of them when he choreographed the fight scenes. |
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Post by Seda Navilli on Jun 17, 2005 3:21:29 GMT -5
Leda, thats very much the case I think. So the 7 styles do exist, but they were created in a backwards way.
Thinking about it, I would think this is how all fighting styles are initially formed, after all I very much doubt that any innovational swordsperson chose their style beforehand, but rather named the style themselves when it proved to be very unique. Or someone else named it, for that matter.
But then again the styles were meant to be already consolidated within the Jedi before any of the actors started mucking about with them, with the exception of Vapaad of course. Meh.
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Post by Kyrian Zenda on Jun 17, 2005 13:20:07 GMT -5
If you read the book I, Jedi by Michael A. Stackpole, Corran Horn and Kam Solusar work out a teaching regimen, and it includes a short tutorial on saber fighting. I think im right in sayin it details the Three Rings approach. You should check it out.
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Post by Lartuenecrof on Jun 17, 2005 19:25:17 GMT -5
Going back to Form 7- It was printed that Maul and Mace are the only two users of this form and I saw nothing in coming other then they both took a fall.
Shouldn't Form 7 be The Art of the Fall? Maul did some spins and added kicks, I saw none of this from Mace.
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