Eqin Ilis
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Post by Eqin Ilis on Sept 11, 2003 17:51:21 GMT -5
[glow=blue,3,0000]I sorta figured we needed a separate thread for this, since it doesn't really fall under "What Lightsaber Combat Form Would You Practice?", and it's becoming a discussion of it's own. If not, just tell me and I'll delete it.[/glow]Greeting All..... Bows: Phantom ...I would like to see what you have so far..... To fully understand the forms you must study the past and see how they were formed......I am also putting together a jedi database of the past and present jedi padawan's/master's....... I have 143 so far..... as well as working on my saber tutorial [glow=blue,3,0000]I haven't really organized my thoughts on this before, so my ideas are still kinda scattered. But I am aware that Tennis, Fencing, Kendo, and stage fighting all play a part in lightsaber combat as seen in the movies. With that knowlege, I'm starting to form a picture of LS combat that goes something like this.[/glow] Form I: SCA Heavy. (Jencappa, a little help here?) Form II: Saber fencing, slightly modified to include legs as target and a different balance on the sword. Form III: Still researching this one. Haven't found much yet. Form IV: I can't remember which one it is, but one of the Asian martial arts is really big on flowing the movements together. And since it included a sword... Form V: Tennis would be useful here, though you might want to get a whiffle bat instead of a racket to simulate the blade. If you got good at it, you would be able to direct "blaster bolts" back at your opponent. Though, for a saber-to-saber fight, I would suggest toning down the backswing. Form VII: Ninja version of swordplay. I can't remember the name, but it uses as little energy as possible, supposedly even teaching how to kill in the act of drawing the sword.
[glow=blue,3,0000]What do you think? Anything close?[/glow]
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Post by tailonkae on Sept 11, 2003 21:53:23 GMT -5
I believe the Asian martial art you might be thinking of is Tai Chi....flowing movements with a sword.
Let me know what ideas you have beside these
May the Force be with you.....Always Bows:
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Post by Xana on Sept 12, 2003 9:12:28 GMT -5
I'm moving this. We have one of these on the General Lightsaber forum, but it was locked and I forgot to unlock it. So, Eqin if you want to repaste it all to the other thread, go right ahead. Then I'll delete it. Don't need two. Okie? ;D
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Sept 12, 2003 14:58:05 GMT -5
Try reading Shimmering Sword by Nick Jamilla. It gives alot of insight as to what goes into a lightsaber duel, styles, mindset, east vs. west...that sort of thing. Well written, I think.
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Eqin Ilis
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Post by Eqin Ilis on Sept 16, 2003 17:49:02 GMT -5
[glow=blue,3,0000]Cool! Thanks Leda, I'll look for it.
Xana: Repaste... the whole thread? To where? ::confused::
TaiLon: Uh... well, I don't really know where to start. I have a wealth of info, but no clue what you're looking for. Training How To's? History on a specific form? Possibilities weighed against each other in a scientific manner? Something else?[/glow]
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Post by Xana on Sept 16, 2003 19:53:03 GMT -5
Just paste the words into a reply. Eh...... nevermind.
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Post by tailonkae on Sept 17, 2003 13:02:31 GMT -5
Hey Phantom when did i say this.......
TaiLon: Uh... well, I don't really know where to start. I have a wealth of info, but no clue what you're looking for. Training How To's? History on a specific form? Possibilities weighed against each other in a scientific manner? Something else?
I believe you are the one who is mistaken..... not sure on your info and such....next time you say something about someone else....make sure they said it to begin with.....
I have already started the tutorial and have info.....i am just wondering what other info i can find from other members.........
May the Force be with you..........
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Post by Xana on Sept 17, 2003 22:07:53 GMT -5
Hey Phantom when did i say this....... TaiLon: Uh... well, I don't really know where to start. I have a wealth of info, but no clue what you're looking for. Training How To's? History on a specific form? Possibilities weighed against each other in a scientific manner? Something else? I believe you are the one who is mistaken..... not sure on your info and such....next time you say something about someone else....make sure they said it to begin with..... I have already started the tutorial and have info.....i am just wondering what other info i can find from other members......... May the Force be with you.......... I believe he was speaking to you. Not saying that you said that. Just he said this to me........ "Xana: Repaste... the whole thread? To where? ::confused:: "
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Post by Xana on Sept 17, 2003 22:10:57 GMT -5
I'm consolidating:
Repasting from Calaveylon..........
If anybody is interested to get started with their Lightsaber training I went to a few websites to post a list of people can get.
1. This Is Kendo: The Art of Japanese Fencing by Sasamori and Warner. ISBN 0804816077.
2. Professional Budo by George A. Katchmer, Jr. ISBN 0940871319.
3. Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi ISBN 0877739986.
It's a start for now. As far as other martial arts to practice to get movements and footwork, that is up to the individual whether that is Karate, Kung-Fu, or Tai-Chi. If anybody has any other books to suggest, please add them to this list.
From Eqin..........
The Inner Game of Fencing: Excellence in Form, Technique, Strategy, and Spirit by Nick Evangelista
From Talion............
Also look at the Visual dictionary for Episode II. It shows the zones of saber combat as well as different positions to stand.
Mission Accomplished.
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Post by tailonkae on Sept 18, 2003 8:28:50 GMT -5
Thank you Xana for clearing that up........... I am already starting my lightsaber training as well........ I hope to have a progress report for tanthos by dec/jan time frame
Bows: May the Force be with you
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Post by Argento on Sept 20, 2003 16:24:59 GMT -5
some martial arts training , specially KENDO, will help a lot
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Post by tailonkae on Oct 18, 2003 15:49:31 GMT -5
The lightsaber tutorial is coming along slowly, but surely.... between work and school i have little time but i am working on it thanks for all the info fellow jedi :bows:
May the force be with you...............Always
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Nov 29, 2003 3:20:11 GMT -5
They have released a SW Insider they have a very comprehensive guide that combined with the AOTC Visual Dictionary provides a nice view and terminology of a Jedi's fighting style and forms.
I've done several years or various stage combat and the guide is very helpful to people like me and others who do planned live steel techniques and shows for stage, screen etc.
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Post by Schph Gochi on Dec 16, 2003 8:06:52 GMT -5
sigh....
enjoy it while you are young! I have always been active and agile....but now that I have entered my 50's....it seems nothing wants to work right anymore... I have been doing Tai Chi for a couple years....and have been having difficulty lately because of pulls in the knee..... I began to take Tai Chi because I thought it would be very Jedi.... and I have enjoyed it.... and still try to do my best to do it.... but the knee continues to "give out" on many of the moves.....
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Jan 4, 2004 16:49:58 GMT -5
I have some plans of my own for a tutorial it will have a basis on the forms described in Star Wars but will be made for step by step strikes and parries.
I was thinking of asking the Council's permission for it. I see a few others have tutorials they wish to do. I was hoping to work witghthe other people involved with stage/screen combat like myself to work together on it but haven't heard from anyone.
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