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Post by Olos Nay on Oct 10, 2006 14:20:38 GMT -5
methos, the weight of light photons is negligible... and even with vibration in the hilt, I fail to see how you'd feel the blade. In fact, I remember reading the description of the lightsaber in the novels as a weightless blade which would require better mastery of the weapon then conventional blades.
However, the gyroscopic effect of it would make movement complex to perform.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 10, 2006 19:24:29 GMT -5
To me, the balance would have to be all in the hilt.
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Post by Larwi B'nu on Oct 11, 2006 22:41:52 GMT -5
I finally purchased my first 'saber! Being Black and bald, I suppose it was inevitable that I would pick the Mace Windu FX lightsaber from Ultrasabers, but I chose the orange blade rather than a silver one w/ purple color disc.
Very interesting discussion all around; I'm sure it would need to have some weight to it in the blade, though I can't imagine it's enough to make the lightsaber easy to handle by Joe Sixpack. Han did do a decent job of cutting open that Taun-Taun on Hoth, though...I agree that there must be some kind of vibrational feedback for the user, just from the "hmm" sound of the blade. I'm not saying there wouldn't be any kind of feedback for the user to wield the weapon effectively, but there would be far less than w/ Mundane swords, which could be disorienting. I dunno; I suppose I'll find out when my Mace Windu arrives. Yay!
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Post by methos on Oct 11, 2006 23:13:21 GMT -5
but a blade of light is impossible. light is a byproduct of a chemical reaction. the vibration would only be slight, if not unnoticable after frequent use. its like that rattling noise the muffler on your car makes when you hit a bump, you know its there and happened, you just tune it out. and wouldnt that slight vibration extend to the blade itself due to momentum of the gyroscopic loops of the energy the blade is made out of?
with actual physics involved, a "light" saber's blade would technically have some weight to it, and a slight vibration. but then again in the science fiction realm, anything is possible or probable.
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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Oct 12, 2006 1:08:13 GMT -5
Where is it said that teh saber is vibrating? I have seen no evidence of this in the films... I recall seeing an interview with GL on one of the extra features where he says it.
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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Oct 12, 2006 1:10:55 GMT -5
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Post by lazlototh on Oct 25, 2006 22:06:45 GMT -5
Another point where an inexperienced user showed clumsiness:
In ESB when Han used Luke's saber to cut open Mr. Tauntaun. Han moved the blade rather clumsily. One could state weather was a factor too, but I would speculate that Solo was a little afraid of possibly decapitating himself or worse...
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Post by Cara Drume on Oct 27, 2006 10:50:51 GMT -5
Yup...and Han didn't have the Force to help him.
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Oct 27, 2006 22:05:14 GMT -5
Yup...and Han didn't have the Force to help him. It doesn't take the Force to weild a lightsaber... it takes the Force to weild a lightsaber well.
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Dec 5, 2006 0:14:54 GMT -5
True, there is a balance needed to do it properly
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Jul 7, 2007 13:06:01 GMT -5
Yep. With all that wind and snow blowing around his head, Han would be nervous. I think he was more focused on getting Luke stowed into the snimal and getting a temporary shelter in place.
In the Trilogy of the Killiks Dark nest series, an ewok was using a saber but in micro gravity. Hilarious. :-)
He should've anchored his feet. Lightsaber or not, the poor ewok was all over the place.
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Post by Cozmo on Nov 9, 2007 15:57:51 GMT -5
Keep in mind that it takes practice, too. For example, Boba Fett had enough practice with a lightsaber that he took on Darth Vader, and it was only when Vader started using the Force that Fett started to really get his butt whupped. There's also the story of Darca Nyl, a mercenary who gained enough skill with a lightsaber to be able to deflect blaster bolts, giving others the impression that he was a Jedi (when he wasn't even Force-sensitive).
As far as Han, I would credit his movement with the weather at hand. If anyone ever saw me with a snow shovel during a snowstorm in my driveway, you'd see what I mean.
The first I ever saw of the lightsaber combat forms was when I played KOTOR II. Personally, I think it's pretty hard to tell one saber form from another unless you're skilled enough in combat to notice things like stance, swing, etc. I do know, however, that I really want to learn lightsaber combat. I know a lot of people say to learn things like Kendo and Kenjutsu, but those seem more regimented than actual combat (judging by what I've read about them). I'm thinking of studying fencing, and specifically saber fencing, to get a feel for the fluidity of combat.
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Nov 10, 2007 2:09:04 GMT -5
Even with fencing there are different styles that are fostered. From olympic to classical. It depends on what you plan on doing int erms of making that into your own style. If you plan in using a Lightsaber like a Rapier then that would work(Count Dookus style is similar though not exact to this).
If your looking for power then Kendo is a way to go and if your loking for movement then Kenjitsu. I've tried or studued all of them and eventually you'll make your own lightsaber stlye by these methods you learn.
That's the fun part, now with you tube having lightsaber how to's every 3 seconds going up it can be hard to see who knows what they're talking about and who simply got a freind to tape them doing basics but it is a bigger advantage as soem of these videos use the terms for Lightsaber combat which are poping up more and more, it's leterally becoming it's own art from.
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Post by causa on May 30, 2010 10:08:34 GMT -5
The first time I saw the 7 forms mentioned, was on Star Wars.com article on lightsaber combat. It's on star wars . com and it is not in the Expanded Universe section, so I take it as cannon, but I have never heard it mentioned in any of the movies. It is the type of thing that could be thrown into the universe, that none of the Jedi would mention the same way they don't explicitly describe pilot training, or diplomacy/history schooling, etc.
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Post by JediKai on May 30, 2010 17:53:21 GMT -5
I first read it in the Star Wars magazine and I think it might also be in one of the illustrated guides.
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