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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Sept 26, 2006 19:00:48 GMT -5
I believe in the extras of the dvd set Lucas spoke about the blades having immense energy and that all that energy being cycled created the gyroscopic effect and made the activated saber tough to handle. I imagine it to be like instant kickback. You activate the blade and it has a life of it's own. Like power tools... a chainsaw, a drill, a jackhammer... it takes skill to control it. sounds just like what I was thinking.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Sept 26, 2006 22:56:38 GMT -5
Gillard said in a presentation at CIII that he wasn't familiar with the 7 forms of lightsaber fighting. Someone asked if he used them while choreographing for the movies, and his reaction was "Um, I don't know what those are."  I THINK the 7 forms came from/comes from one of the video games..............never mentioned directly in the movies to my recollection. Likely an after thought of GL like so much else. The first place I ever read of it was in the visual dictionary, and then there was an article in the Insider, describing them.
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Post by Primrodo on Sept 27, 2006 1:28:14 GMT -5
Exacly...basically it was to fill pages on the Visual Dictionary. One of the best things about the VD's are its pictures and faboulous fiction, immobolizing stare et al. However the VD's also make up information to serve as page filling, like Anakin's "dark" colours in AOTC, or low power pulse indicators in placement of a screw on a mauser  As for control on a saber...Han did a pretty good job cutting open that Taun Taun 
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Sept 27, 2006 6:18:29 GMT -5
...and like Obi-Wan's Unusually grave expression, and Dooku's Signature look of superiority!...yes, the Vis-Dics can deceive you... dont trust them! lol! 
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Post by Primrodo on Sept 27, 2006 10:32:34 GMT -5
My favourite has always been Lando's "Winning Smile" 
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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Oct 2, 2006 21:12:08 GMT -5
Winning at Sabaac you mean 
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Post by Shafo Cloudwalker on Oct 4, 2006 19:56:16 GMT -5
lightsabers are supposed to have a gyroscopic effect when in use. That would give feedback to the Jedi who was trying to control the blade while in use. The blade would want to do its own thing and require wrist strength to control its movements. That would allow for a measure of control......ever hold one of those guroscopic wrist balls? they spin and torque while you are holding them and can be a bit difficult to hold steady. That is what I imagine a lightsaber would be like. IF a JEdi had to focus on that while using the blade it might be enough feedback....... Hello and thanks all for the disscusion. Being new here I'll try to be humble, but I have done much reading and study on lightsabres and I have to agree with this statement. It is this gyro effect that is what takes the place of mass & wieght. And what makes the lightsabre such a beast to handle, and why it is that really only a well trained and Jedi able to use the force as well as his physical strength & dexterity that can wield it safely. Otherwise one could just as easily cut off his own limbs as his opponents, among other dangerous things that can result. To get a sort of feel for it, take a power drill and with it at full speed wave it around. Raising it upward will produce a pull to the right, and lowering it will pull left. The extreme energy of a lightsaber makes this effect imensely more pronounced, and difficult to control. Just one of the reasons why it is that the Jedi were the only ones with them, as the average Joe just couldnt handle it safely. Nor could he successfully build one either, as the crystal alignment and the faceting could only be done by a Jedi through use of the force to sense, or feel the proper alignment. There was no gauge, or instrument made that could make this fine and exact procedure. In fact, if I remember correctly it was the Jedi who discovered and developed the technology in the first place. And improper faceting & alignment of the crystals would result in the device exploding upon activation instead of a blade of energy being created, killing or very seriously injuring it's maker.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 4, 2006 21:22:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I think that last statement you made was in the book, I Jedi. Corran Horn was a lttle concerned about that when he first activated his!
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Post by Shafo Cloudwalker on Oct 4, 2006 22:06:27 GMT -5
Yes Leda, actually I have never read I Jedi, I do wish to though. where I read it at was in a series of paperback novels, and you'll have to forgive me for not remembering the name of them. But I think,(Uh-oh) they were entitled something like Young Jedi knights but the theme was about an academy headed by Luke Skywalker and the time frame was after ROTJ. I dont think I remember any of the students having one explode, but much was stressed about this by Luke to them. However, the only incident I remember was that one of the students in her haste, and impatience had used a poor choice of crystals. The fact being that they were not pure enough. And during a training session battling with another student her blade gave way whilst her opponent had her blade against it, you know how when the two sort of become "locked" when you block an attack and you are holding the sabre against the other. Anyway, while she was holding off her opponents blade with her own, it began to fluctuate in intensity and eventually just gave way and the result was losing her arm. Her sparring partner was severely scolded by Luke, and disiplined of course because she should have backed off. But she was one who was quite over zealous and reckless, and in her exitement to win failed to let up when she saw her opponents blade faltering. The blade failed of course because of the impurity of the crystals chosen. Heh, and she too got some serious lecturing from Luke on her haste in searching and choosing of the crystals. Yep, I got to get me that book, I Jedi I've heard it mentioned before but have never seen it on the shelf. Sounds like an interesting read. Amazon here I come! 
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 4, 2006 22:10:27 GMT -5
Interesting. 
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Oct 5, 2006 8:59:40 GMT -5
I can't remember which of the Young Jedi books that was...
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Post by Shafo Cloudwalker on Oct 5, 2006 9:39:49 GMT -5
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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Oct 5, 2006 11:38:59 GMT -5
sounds like the trilogy about the founding of the academy on Yavin 4. With Kyp and the sun crusher, sturm, Exar Kun and the like...........
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Post by methos on Oct 8, 2006 19:21:55 GMT -5
as to my understanding anyway...
a light saber is a energy-powered blade, that as a after effect , emits light.
the blade itself is made up of a constant loop of gyroscoping energy. as a byproduct of the loop, the "blade" emits light. as i heard in my earthy sciences class once, "energy has mass, and mass equals wieght." so the blade does have some weight to it, and since the whole shabang is vibrating, you could easily feel the end of the blade.
i imagine the constant vibration would only be slight, handling the lightsaber wouldnt be all that hard, but its the activation and power clashes that would have some kick to it
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Post by Primrodo on Oct 9, 2006 0:41:33 GMT -5
Where is it said that teh saber is vibrating? I have seen no evidence of this in the films...
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