Eqin Ilis
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Post by Eqin Ilis on May 23, 2002 10:15:57 GMT -5
I would say something about that, but I think everyone is taking this way too seriously. What my last post was meant to mean was that some people see some things in a movie, and other people see other things. And this happens even after we have the dang thing memorized, because the movies don't always say things that are really obvious. If they did, they'd be boring.
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Post by Xana on May 23, 2002 18:53:07 GMT -5
I agree with Czuco-- I don't think "as his son" was actually said. Next time I see the movie I will pay more attention.
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Post by Shoshana Win on May 23, 2002 21:20:20 GMT -5
Sorry Nick, but I have to agree with Czuco and Xana on this one. Lama Su only says that Jango wanted an unaltered clone for himself, he does not say "as his son." At least not during any of the 4 times I've seen the movie so far!!! ;D However, to be fair  , I have heard rumors that there are different versions of the movie out there with slight differences in dialogue. So, since I didn't see the movie with you, I really can't say what you heard ! I'll keep watching TF.N, which is where I first heard the rumor, and see if it comes up. If anyone else has found it, please let me know! I guess since there is only supposed to be a 2-3 year gap (which makes sense because we are supposed to see the rest of the Clone Wars during the next movie), then Daniel Logan should show up as Boba Fett. If Boba will even be in the next movie  ! But I think he will, because apparently he winds up back with Dooku after Jango dies. |
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Post by Nova Darklighter on May 26, 2002 5:16:57 GMT -5
Taun We & Lama Su do not say as his son, but Boba at one point, at least calls Jango "DAD" and by thier interactions it looks like an obvious father & son relationship.
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Post by Xana on May 26, 2002 8:40:48 GMT -5
Thank you, Nova!;D
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Post by BlueRoommate on Jun 3, 2002 22:03:24 GMT -5
I have my own theory about Fetts:
if they look like Jango, they are A-OK with me!!!
(and imagine- the whole clone army looks like that)
::grins::
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Post by Bombad Jedi on Jun 4, 2002 3:13:43 GMT -5
Falling in love with the enemy Lutma? 
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Post by Xana on Jun 4, 2002 9:45:49 GMT -5
Not only does the whole clone army look like Jango, but they are prone to suggestion and taking orders. Hmmm............ *goes off to ponder that for a while*
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Post by Schph Gochi on Jun 10, 2002 6:00:25 GMT -5
tossing 2 cents into the pot..
Initially Su & We only said that Jengo wanted an un-altered clone for himself.....but then ....when Taun We takes Obi-Wan to see Jengo and they arrive at the door, does't Taun We say to Boba....."is your father home?"....then Boba calls to Jengo..."Dad...Taun We is here"..?
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Post by BlueRoommate on Jun 10, 2002 21:08:25 GMT -5
no, Czuco, i'm not falling in love with the enemy- but thats because bounty hunters have no enemies!!! (and even I can't deny that there's an appeal to a guy like Jango Fett!!!)) Xana- i totally think you're on to something......
I've decided that i want to see Boba Fett deliver the death blow to Mace Windu. Not that i want to see any jedi die, but that would only be fair. and if it's got to happen, thats the way i'd love for it to go down.
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Post by Shoshana Win on Jul 2, 2002 14:06:12 GMT -5
Boba will still be too young to fight Mace in EpIII, so I think he dies another way. I read somewhere (offical site I think), that there will only be about three years between the two movies, and Boba will not be wearing Jango's armor in EpIII. So it looks like Daniel Logan will be playing Boba again, and I think that Boba won't have progressed enough to be able to fight a Jedi like Mace and win. And Xana...........I think you are on to something too! But we won't tell Solorad that !! |
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Post by Xana on Jul 3, 2002 13:24:33 GMT -5
Hehe..... lol!;D Shhhhhh!!!!!
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Post by MasterJediJonik on Aug 17, 2002 2:57:53 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]Alright, here's just some common knowledge that I icked up from my old Biology class that ties BOTH theories of the father/son idea together.
FIRST: The idea of cloning it taking one sperm cell (excuse my boldness) and duplicating it so that when either is introduced in an egg cell, they both grow to be the same person. The only problem with this is that the new "clone" whichever one you pick, may want to be a fireman while the other chooses astrology. Different mind patterns.
SO! What the Kamino's did was mess with them. (of course they know how in a world with lightsabers and hovering speeders that are INEXPENSIVE!) They made them grow faster (to a certain age so they don't grow older and have to be killed), and made them take orders very easily. Typical clone/stormtrooper.
ALSO! When Taun We spoke of the unaltered clone, OF COURSE she was talking about Boba! They call him a clone only because Jango wasn't too good with the ladies. He had a huge job all the time, and would always look at her with that weird scar, it'd never work. So they had to make his son a clone, UNALTERED. [/shadow]
So you're both right. He is a clone, and he is his son at the same time. But then again, ALL of the clones in the army are Jango's children too. (Metal Gear Solid theory) They all came from his DNA from his, uh, *AHEM*, sperm. So there ya go.
Where can I volunteer to make an army with my DNA and get PAID for it? (wouldn't he not want to be a bounty hunter after getting that insane amount of money?)
But my most unanswered question yet: Are the stormtroopers Jango's clones too? Or did the Empire find a new host?
(EW! Gross! Boba held up his dad's helmet with his severed HEAD still inside!)
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Post by Xana on Aug 17, 2002 11:09:56 GMT -5
No, no, the head fell out rolled away. You can see the shadow of it on screen to the right I think. When the DVD comes out in November you can see it then. There has been some discussion about the stormtroopers on the SW site boards. It seems the some are clones, but a lot are new recruits and volunteers. I would have to do some digging to find out for sure.
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Post by Shoshana Win on Aug 17, 2002 13:55:04 GMT -5
Actually Jonik, you're thinking in the right direction, but cloning is a little different than you think. And everyone, please excuse if I sound like I am giving a lecture........I don't mean to. But I do have a degree in biology, and I love to talk about it ;D!!! Cloning doesn't use sperm...that's actually where genetic diversity comes from. If you were to use sperm, the resulting offspring would be different from the father and the mother, because sperm cells only contain half of the father's genes. The other half comes from the mother (the egg). But if you duplicate the sperm, and offspring from those sperm would be identical to each other, but NOT to the father, as long as the egg is duplicated as well. If you put identical sperm into different eggs, the offspring will be different from each other. So, in order to make a clone, you have to use a cell that contains ALL of the donor's genes. I believe that skin cells are commonly used, because they are so easy to obtain. The nucleus (which contains all of the DNA/genes) is removed from the donor's skin cell, and placed into an egg (whose own nucleus has been removed). Once inside the egg, the enviroment inside activates genes in the donor DNA that have been switched off. It is basically tricked into thinking that it is an embryo and needs to develop into a new organism. Since it has the same DNA/genes as the donor, it is a true clone. However, what you said about being a different person is spot on. The same thing is seen in indentical twins, which are clones of each other. Their genetic makeup is exactly the same, but they grow up to be two different people, with different personalities. That's one of the major reasons I object to whole human cloning. But I won't go into that here, since it's such a controversial subject . As for Jango's clones, there are not really his children. They are just copies of him. But they are not really true clones, because the Kamino's state that they have altered their genetic makeup to make them less independent. As to how they sped up their development, that's the million dollar question, and I fervently hope that that part of SW lore NEVER becomes a reality. But I digress......... As for Jango's experience with women.........I personally think that one, he didn't have much time for a social life, two, he would never let anyone get that close to him, and three, he was disdainful of just about anyone, which ties into number two. So getting an unaltered clone to raise as his son was just a way to get over all that and not have to be in a relationship with a woman. But Boba is not really his son, not in the conventional sense. He is a CLONE, Jango just chooses to raise him as his son. And personally, that scar doesn't turn me off one bit. It gives his face a lot of character! As for stormtroopers, I think that some may be clones, but like Xana said, that a lot of them are new recruits. I get the impression from something I read, but can't remember, that the cloning facilites are destroyed, and the Emperor can't make any clones. I hope we learn some more in Ep III. This ends the biology lesson for today ;D ;D ;D. Hope I haven't upset anyone with it!! |
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, I have heard rumors that there are different versions of the movie out there with slight differences in dialogue. So, since I didn't see the movie with you, I really can't say what you heard 
! But I think he will, because apparently he winds up back with Dooku after Jango dies. 
