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Post by Qual Totem on May 17, 2005 15:04:51 GMT -5
ok i know qui gon trained obi wan but in the trilogy he says "there you will find Yoda the jedi master who instructed me." Am i missing something, please explain
you know what two quotes are funny "Two fighters against a star destroyer." and "its a trap" both because the way they are said. ;D
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Aayla
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Post by Aayla on May 18, 2005 7:51:48 GMT -5
well yoda does general padawan training for the jedi temple so yoda would have instructed obiwan from a very young age for a good ammount of years until he was given a master (qui gon) in a certain point of view yoda was the jedi who instructed obiwan qui gon was the one to do extensive training to what knowlege obiwan was taught by yoda
and another thing i think obiwan was trying to say was yoda taught me the basic fundimentals of the force and jedi-ism and will teach you too
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Post by Bel-Den Shaw on May 19, 2005 11:04:58 GMT -5
I agree. Yoda being the great jedi he is instructs all the younglings. I think it has to do with his age and his love for children. I know having a grampa like yoda around would be most excellent. My grandparents always spoiled me when i saw them
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Post by Aston Jor-Cello on May 19, 2005 11:18:51 GMT -5
Aayla, couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 19, 2005 13:50:57 GMT -5
Yoda trained Obi-Wan by default. He trained ALL of the Jedi when they were small children. For hundreds of years. He was a teacher of many students and Obi-Wan was one of them. He was literally one of the pillars of the whole Jedi Order.
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Aayla
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Post by Aayla on May 19, 2005 15:07:05 GMT -5
thank you aston hmm yer basically what i ment
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Post by Theyrenotdolls (Den Dragonson) on May 19, 2005 16:14:12 GMT -5
you also have to think of this as a movie. That line is a device to convince Luke to go to dagobah. Ben telling Luke to find the jedi master that instructed him, makes it personal, gives Luke someone to identify with...makes yoda familiar enough to go search the swamps for him. Even if it's not 100% accurate from the Master/Padawan point of view, you'll find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 19, 2005 19:54:51 GMT -5
Yes, there are many points of view. Only Sith think in absolutes.
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Post by Qual Totem on May 19, 2005 20:54:27 GMT -5
Good point, i am slowly expanding my wisdom thank you all
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Post by Aayla on May 20, 2005 2:40:29 GMT -5
i agree with Ani-Chay Pinn ;D
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Post by kivaanzion on May 20, 2005 7:34:00 GMT -5
I think I heard this during the dvd commentary- My understanding is that when Lucas wrote the backstory for the original trilogy- there was no Qui-Gon character. It was supposed to be Obi-Wan who discovers Anakin on Tatooine and takes him on as his student. Yoda was originally Obi-Wan's Master.
When Lucas started writing Ep I, he discovered that Obi-Wan would have been too young to be a wise Jedi Master, so he created the Qui-Gon character, who became Obi-Wan's actual Master.
It did create a bit of a loophole- but as was said earlier Obi-Wan does like to put his own spin on the truth. Obi-Wan appears only for a few moments (on Hoth) and needs to get straight to the point (before Luke relapses into unconsciousness)- so there is no need to discuss Qui-Gon with Luke.
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