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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Mar 31, 2006 3:47:43 GMT -5
A friend of mine had me read this. I thought it would be cool to share with everyone and he said I could put it on here. The first part is the actual script prior to what he changed to end it with the ----- lines.
VADER (a whisper) Luke, help me take this mask off.
LURE But you'll die.
VADER Nothing can stop that now. Just for once... let me look on you with my own eyes.
Slowly, hesitantly, Luke removes the mask from his father's face. There beneath the scars is an elderly man. His eyes do not focus. But the dying man smiles at the sight before him.
ANAKIN (very weak) Now...go, my son. Leave me.
LUKE No. You're coming with me. I can't leave you here. I've got to save you.
ANAKIN You already have, Luke. You were right about me. Tell your sister...you were right.
LUKE Father...I won't leave you.
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VADER (angry, still weak) Do as I say, boy! (cough) You have no time...
LUKE (monotone, eyes glazed) I have no time...
VADER Go...!
Luke rises, regret on his face.
LUKE I love you, father.
Luke rushes away, never realizing his actions are spurred by his father's hypnotic command.
After Luke has rounded out of sight, Vader rises, not as weakened as he had seemed only moments ago. It rapidly becomes clear that his dying was faked for his son's benefit. He moves rapidly and with purpose, knowing that he has precious little time. All that get in his way, be they obstacles or hapless Imperial personell, are tossed aside with a gesture of his hand and a wave of the Force. He enters an elevator, turning to face the camera as the doors close.
INTERIOR THRONE ROOM
Vader exits the elevator, striding rapidly, ignoring the shaking and sounds of explosion that reach even here. His destination becomes clear... it is the Imperial Throne. Reaching it, he turns and sits. His rightful place, at last. A fitting place to die.
As he collects his thoughts for the last time, he looks out through the window at the stars and at the myriad of ships escaping the dying Death Star. One of them catches his eye, and he speaks for the final time.
VADER Goodbye, my son.
CUT TO DEATH STAR EXPLOSION
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Mar 31, 2006 17:38:43 GMT -5
Now I thought this was a very cool idea. Instead of Vader dying like that on the floor it was more a sacrifice. Any thouyghts??
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Post by kivaanzion on Mar 31, 2006 19:55:10 GMT -5
OK I've read it a few times now. On the whole it's a cool alternative- Vader/Anakin going out with a little more dignity than dying in Luke's arms. The image of him whisking aside Imperial troops is cool by itself.
But there is something missing for me. I feel the need to know why he faked being so injured and helpless if he really wasn't.
Himiko, I know you won't necessarily have all the answers to my questions (perhaps you could ask your friend)- I'm just thinking out loud right now.
First- Anakin shouldn't really have to use the Jedi Mind Trick on Luke; Luke should be compelled to obey Anakin simply because he is his Father. The lines "Do as I say boy! You have no time! GO!" should be enough for Luke to get moving (sort of a "back to reality" check for Luke).
The Jedi Mind trick only works on the weak-minded which I certainly don't believe Luke is. We also have never seen the JMT used against another Jedi. Most likely it wouldn't work. Otherwise Yoda would have used it on Luke for his own good to stay on Dagobah and finish his training.
I still don't understand the need for Anakin to deceive Luke. Unless Luke was in direct danger that trying to save Anakin would result in both their deaths. This would make sense if Anakin was too weak to move, and Luke (still weakened from the Sith Lightning) not strong enough to carry Anakin (regardless of him using the force or his muscles). But Anakin is still very strong in the alternate ending- so why not go with Luke?
Unless Anakin still loves the Empire.
Why would he take the thrown of the Emperor? Is he still evil? Does he wish to feel as if he is now in command of the Galactic Empire for the few minutes it has left? That would seem to be his intention going by what I read- but it kinda puts Anakin back on the Darkside doesn't it?
That doesn't feel like a sacrifice, more like self-indulgence. He doesn't want Luke to know that he still loves the Empire (or that perhaps he feels he has no place with the Alliance) so he sends Luke away first- rather than breaking Luke's heart by objecting to coming with him and saying something like... "I cannot go with you my Son. My destiny, my rightful place, lies here."
For me the missing part to make it a true sacrifice would be the need for Anakin to stay behind, in order for Luke to escape. Such as deactivating a tractor beam or force field, etc. Luke is too headstrong to go without Anakin, so Anakin fakes passing away- Luke starts up the shuttle, while Anakin goes off to turn off the switch. Just as he throws the switch, the shuttle flies out the docking bay- and Anakin utters "Goodbye my Son".
In this case Anakin has sacrificed himself completely for Luke.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to re-write your friend's ending (it does have some excellent, powerful imagery)- I'm just trying to illustrate my thoughts.
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 1, 2006 2:10:14 GMT -5
I know. You have good points there too. I have IMed him and hopefully will have an answer for you soon
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Post by jedi12 on Apr 1, 2006 19:56:50 GMT -5
I agree it is a good alternat ending but I also agree with what you say Ki-Vaan
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 2, 2006 2:49:37 GMT -5
still he had a good imaganation in comming up with this
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Post by kivaanzion on Apr 2, 2006 14:19:14 GMT -5
Absolutely! ;D It's very well written. I would say it falls into that "what if" category. It would have really been different if Anakin choose to escape as well (as in taking a TIE fighter and going in the opposite direction). 
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 2, 2006 20:12:00 GMT -5
yes it would be.. but then wouldnt the remenatns of the empire look for vader? They would have figued it out eventually... and then Luke would have felt vader in the future I'm sure.
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Post by Aston Jor-Cello on Apr 8, 2006 17:20:39 GMT -5
"Why would he take the thrown of the Emperor? Is he still evil? Does he wish to feel as if he is now in command of the Galactic Empire for the few minutes it has left? That would seem to be his intention going by what I read- but it kinda puts Anakin back on the Darkside doesn't it?"
Good points there as well, Ki Vaan, but I was thinking too, that by Vader sitting on the Emperor's throne wouldn't necessarily make Vader evil again, because as Episode 3 points out, Vader wasn't wholly evil to begin with. He just went into service of the Emperor not out of evilness, but because he felt that was what he had to do to save Padme. Plus, once she was dead he nothing else to live for in a sense. And also, once he threw the Emperor down the main reactor shaft, he had renounced the darkside completely. All Vader wanted to do was rule, and be free to make things his way, since he felt he had been a slave to others all his life.
"INTERIOR THRONE ROOM
Vader exits the elevator, striding rapidly, ignoring the shaking and sounds of explosion that reach even here. His destination becomes clear... it is the Imperial Throne. Reaching it, he turns and sits. His rightful place, at last. A fitting place to die."
I like this part because it confirms to me, that just for a little bit all he really wanted to was be in control, control of his destiny and actions, not being hindered by the Jedi Council or the Emperor. And if it was his destiny to die, he was going to do so where he wanted to be all along. Good alternate ending.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Apr 8, 2006 18:19:14 GMT -5
That ending would mean that Vader still had to have that uber-power, and ultimately that he wasn't redeemed. Credit given for creativity... 
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 9, 2006 3:32:37 GMT -5
LOL.. Yeah
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 11, 2006 15:06:14 GMT -5
Ok.. here's his reply...... the Vader use of the Jedi Mind Trick falls under the "dramatic necessity" clause and the "Vader is Just That Bad A" clause. as to Vader's motivations... think about Vader as a dark samurai it's very Bushido and given that the Jedi were largely drawn from the Samurai, it fits Palpatine was honorless and unworthy, but he was Vader's master. Vader was compelled by extreme circumstances to finally destroy his honorless master but he still broke his vows : how many samurai stories feature a powerful warrior who slays their patietic daimyo only to kill themselves thereafter? that's only one of the reasons
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Apr 11, 2006 15:12:59 GMT -5
More to his reply.....
The Empire would never die as long as Vader lived. Nor could Luke ever be free of his shadow Vader was the past. Luke the future. In his mind it was time to step aside it was also a "captain going down with the sinking ship" thing
He could never have belonged in the new future of the Republic. He would have been an uncomfortable reminder of a dark time, never having a place, always regretting not having the courage to go out like a warrior instead of lingering on like a remnant. Vader would not bear living such insult why the throne? Because it was HIS. he should have had it two decades ago. Palpatine was unworthy of it. But his honor kept him from taking it. Even though it was a futile gesture, Vader could and would take it, even if for a moment only
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Post by Aston Jor-Cello on Apr 11, 2006 15:40:07 GMT -5
That I understand. Good points there.
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Post by kivaanzion on Apr 11, 2006 15:56:53 GMT -5
That does help. I totally see the "going down with the ship" simile. For the Samurai aspect... I can kinda see where he is coming from. I may not agree with everything he said though. I don't think the Sith fall anywhere near the way of Bushido; the Sith are completely without honour. But don't get me wrong- I do like what he has written. 
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