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Post by Olos Nay on Nov 10, 2005 9:49:05 GMT -5
I might steal your idea, Tigus. My obi is currently sewn on the tabbards at the back. Well, the tabbards aren't going down below the obi at the back, OWK style, as I tough it would be good when I need to sit. After wearing my outfit at the office a whole day, I realised the tabbards are always misplaced when you sit, and you need to replace them, and the tunic, when you stand. So I was thinking about maybe sewing the back of the tabbards/obi on the back, and the tabbards at the shoulders. moreover - the tunic harness thread made me think about putting some layers of velcro on the tunic in the front to hold the obi when it is tied. Maybe this way it is going to hold correctly when I sit/stand? I like my cannon bunching, but when it bunches, its not all that comfortable...
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 10, 2005 16:43:06 GMT -5
If you attach the tabards and obi to your tunic, it might pull on you in odd ways when to sit/stand/move. You might want to try attaching them with safety pins first to test the placement and fit before sewing.
I use a double layer of fabric on my obi. That seems to make it heavy enough so it dosen't roll much.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 10, 2005 19:26:44 GMT -5
Well yes, the tabards get blind stitched to the shoulders of the tunic, and sewn across the waistline of the back of the tunic. I also have them pinned together in the front, under the obi.
I think I might try a strip of velcro to fasten them to the tunic in the front.... it might help keep the costume from getting out of place when I sit and stand...
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 10, 2005 19:29:02 GMT -5
If you attach the tabards and obi to your tunic, it might pull on you in odd ways when to sit/stand/move.
I don't have any problem with pulling. Maybe it has something to do with the fabric?
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 10, 2005 22:51:32 GMT -5
Oh, attaching the obi and tabards to the tunic should work fine. The potential problem is not having them attached in the right places. I've added things to costumes and then found out that they didn't hang right, even when I was sure everything was just the way I wanted it. That's why it's a good idea to pin everything together and wear it a little before doing the stitching. And when testing out a costume, it's not as easy to get stuck with safety pins than with straight ones.
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Nov 11, 2005 9:50:14 GMT -5
I use a double layer of fabric on my obi. That seems to make it heavy enough so it dosen't roll much. My Obi has a stiff piece of mesh-like thing sewn in between the 2 layers, and it NEVER rolls. I think its the same kind of mesh used for ladies' dress belts...Well yes, the tabards get blind stitched to the shoulders of the tunic, and sewn across the waistline of the back of the tunic. I also have them pinned together in the front, under the obi. I think I might try a strip of velcro to fasten them to the tunic in the front.... it might help keep the costume from getting out of place when I sit and stand... My tabards are kept in place with velcro on the top of both shoulders; a long strip from my tunic collar all the way to the edge of each shoulder. This way I only have to adjust the portion of the tabard which stick out from below my obi/belt from time to time.
I wanted my costume to be like a real piece of clothing as much as possible, and not one piece with all the bits sewn together. After a while I was able to adjust the various parts nicely into place without effort, just like how we would adjust our everyday clothing when we sit down or get up...
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Post by Olos Nay on Nov 11, 2005 12:25:46 GMT -5
the main problem seams to reside in the tabbards... when you sit, the tabbards moves. when you stand, the tabbards pulls on the obi in the back. then you need to pull on the tabbards in the back, replace them in the front, and in the process the tunic moves in the front so you need to replace that as well.
Its not all that hard, its just annoying.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 12, 2005 21:20:13 GMT -5
Right... now I see how that can happen. Yours sit flat on the body, like Obi Wan's do... looks nicely tailored. Mine are looser, I guess they fall that way because I'm not flat... so I don't have that pulling problem.
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Post by Olos Nay on Nov 12, 2005 23:48:24 GMT -5
lol.. yep. You lady jedis have some advantage... ;-) I guess you're right. Thanks for the comments on my tabbards, BTW. :-)
I really think I'll put hooks and loops at straterig places to hold the parts in place. the more I think about it, the more it seams like a good idea...
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 13, 2005 10:46:56 GMT -5
Yeah, the fit is different for every Jedi.
Generally, my obi and tabards stay where I put them. But I think that's because I have a well defined waist. That keeps the belt in place, which keeps the obi in place, which keeps the tabards in place.
They must have had this problem for the movie costumes. There's a very nice publicity shot of Qui-Gon Jinn from TPM and it looks good, except that his belt is sagging off of his obi. No narrower waist to keep it in place. I don't know why the photographer didn't fix that; the picture was obviously taken in a studio setting. But there it is.
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Post by JediKai on Nov 13, 2005 14:05:05 GMT -5
I thought maybe his lightsaber made the belt sag, as it does mine.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 13, 2005 16:25:04 GMT -5
I suppose the saber could be weighing his belt down. Aaaah, the realities of wearing a costume. But in the photo, Qui-Gon is posed with his hands on the belt and on the lightsaber. I think it might be his hands that are pushing the belt down; the belt just doesn't look like it's very tight around the his obi. Or perhaps the obi is wrapped a little high on his waist. Either way, his belt is placed very differently from how you see it in the movies.
Now that I think about it....did the actors have help putting their obis on? When I put my obi on, it always scrunches up the tabards in back and I have to straighten them after I finish tying the obi. I suppose the actors would have someone to do that for them.
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Post by Olos Nay on Nov 13, 2005 17:24:05 GMT -5
I know I generally have some help putting my costume on... when I am done, I help others out. This is not the easiest style of clothings...
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Nov 13, 2005 20:04:35 GMT -5
If I'm alone, I just put it on backwards and twist it around, but it's always better when help is available.... even if it's just to answer to "how does it look?"
It's funny to watch behind the scenes clips of the Jedi being dressed and primped by hoards of people from wardrobe and make-up! ;D
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Nov 13, 2005 21:04:03 GMT -5
I do the same thing with my belt; I put it on backward and then twist it around. And then I have to staighten everything out.
Yeah, it's fun to see all the touching up that all the actors need just to look good on camera. If we lived in that cool, high-tech, SW universe then maybe we wouldn't need a small team following us around to keep hair and face and clothes looking perfect. But without that, we'll have to settle for the movies.
And as I catch up on some ironing....I must say that crinkle cotton is really NOT good material for making tabards and obi out of. I had some lying around and tried it, but noooooooo, it needs lots of ironing and it's just too thin, even with triple thickness. It's good as undertunic material, but not for any other part of the costume.
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