How brown?

[Anukh Bastis]

I bought a dark moss colored fabric for the overtunic which is a cross of brown and green. The undertunic fabric was originally light green, but I re-dyed it in a chocolate brown dye bath. It's now a light olive, but still looks greenish. Should I dye it again? The standards say "shades of brown", does apply to green-brown? Worst case scenario is that I do two sets of Jedi costumes, one kosher and the other more my thing, but I'd like to avoid that if I can. How can we come to a mutual agreement? ;D

[Jeffrek]

Send in a few pictures (preferably without flash but still well lit).

[Leda EmBorr]

Yes, a picture without flash, in daylight will probably do.

The thing about browns, khaki's etc, is: where does it cross the line? That's a tough thing to determine, especially when so many factors determine the color that you see.

[Xana]

I think that mailing a swatch to a few Council members to see would be a good idea. It may sound extreme, but if we get to see it up close and confer with eachother, it may be the best way. I would try sending us a photo first, though.

[Schph Gochi]

too true....color doesn't really render well in photos....

found that out too many times....

[Anukh Bastis]

Leave it me to pick fabric that change colors depending on whether they're outdoors in bright light, low light or indoors under flourescent lighting... Although what I had chose for an overtunic looks drab brown under lights, it looks more green in daylight... Basically, I think I may have to dye both fabrics again. However, I enclosed the pics of the robe fabric (on the far left) and the tunic fabrics for your esteemed viewing. Thanks for your replies.

Anukh Bastis

new.photos.yahoo.com/nmentor467/album/576460762342180686/photo/294928804289689333/5

[Xana]

Compared to the other colors, you are right. It looks moss colored to me. But the robe and light tan colored material look fine!

However, they look good together if you wanted to make a non movie cannon set of tunics! It's a nice blend of colors.

[Leda EmBorr]

I think it's a pretty color. The three go well together. But I see what you mean about it looking greenish. On my laptop monitor, the picture looks washed out, but i know that's my monitor... it makes everything look lighter. I'll have to compare it to the one on my desk.

[JediKai]

I agree with Xana.

for the future, while fabric shopping: if the color matters, take the bolt over near the windows to examine the color.

[Anukh Bastis]

Actually, it turns out that there may be precedent for the colors I picked. Granted, this guy isn't in the top 3 and if it weren't for a fan site (www.hankscustoms.com/roth.html), I'd have never known about Roth-Del Masona as he was one of the blurry Jedi fighting in the Geonosis area in Ep. II. [After repeated holocron viewings, I still can't remember that battle.] His over tunic's a moss color with tree bark brown trousers. But does this mean that I would have to do an exact copy of his outfit to join the Assembly?

Or I can toss the cloth in brown dye again and nudge the spectrum towards a more 'respectable' brown...I don't mean to be a difficult padawan, but I kinda wanted to do something other than the red-tinted browns and beiges.

Either way, I got time since I decided to get my saber from Random Sabers and the waitlist's a year, I heard.

Thanks again,

Anukh Bastis

[Primrodo]

Actually, like many images we see, there are often elements of a photograph that can make a colour appear different.

The first picture of that character you can really see how green the overall picture is, not just him, look at how his complextion is in the smaller square compared to the top one. Even his dark skin has a green tinge to it...so unless he was not feeling well that day...

Here is the image adjusted to take into account a more natual skin tone, the sands tone and the blue screen. I also deepened the levels a touch. COmpare mine (the bottom) to the orginal on the site (top)



Also for comparison:

[Xana]

Ah... just like that picture of Mace Windu in Vanity Fair. I swore it had a green tinge to it until Nova pointed it was the lighting. And she was right! Mace's tunic is beige like all the rest.

[Primrodo]

Thats brown for ya...I mean if you take your picture with the wrong major lightsource it can also seem reeeeally off. Some light sources are white, but some are yellow, orange, blue or green...not in person of course. And then theres the fact you rarely see a Jedi costume in bright real sunlight....oh the woes!

[Qui-Kel Jinn]

hey my over tunic i got accepted with is green!!!


is green a problem? i thought it was earthen tones?
Not tryin to be difficult just wondering???

[Olos Nay]

Nice Costume Qui Kel.
I would clrealy call that a brownish green, or a greenish brown.

Its not pure green per say.... but for the records, it has been mentionned several times that green and grey aren't earth tones in their pure colorations.

Earth tones are tones of earth (soils, dirt), not natural colors found on Earth... thus grass green, ocean blue and volcano red isn't appropriate, but brownish red, brownish green, brownish grey are completely acceptable, if they have ennough brown in them.


Therefore, I completely understand the Council's call on your costume about the color being correct, before you called it green, I never even tought "this is a green"
I think you have a good example of how wide the brown selection can be.
Again, congrats on the costume.




see Merriam-Webster's online dictionary about earth tone:

any of various rich colors containing some brown

www.m-w.com/dictionary/earth+tone



See online's free dictionary definition of earth tone:

colors like those of soil or earth; brownish-reds and browns.

www.thefreedictionary.com/earth+tones



Online yourdictionary.com

Any of various rich warm colors with tones of brown.

www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/e/e0009300.html



see wikipedia's description of earth tone:

The colors in an earth tone scheme are muted and flat in an emulation of the natural colors found in dirt and rocks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_tone