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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 20, 2005 22:52:40 GMT -5
Of course, defining what "persnoal pleasure" can become the balancing point. Probably both Obi-Wan and Anakin might admit to the "thrill" of a lightsaber battle. I don't think any Jedi would go through all that training if they didn't get huge satisfaction out of it and using their abilities.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 21, 2005 3:26:59 GMT -5
I think any martial artist will say that! Nothing like a good spar! A friendly spar, that is!
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 21, 2005 15:55:24 GMT -5
Of course, defining what "persnoal pleasure" can become the balancing point. Probably both Obi-Wan and Anakin might admit to the "thrill" of a lightsaber battle. I don't think any Jedi would go through all that training if they didn't get huge satisfaction out of it and using their abilities.
I think the definition is something someone can't truly appreciate unless they've actually experienced it themselves. Yes, anyone would feel satisfaction at being able to use their skills, and even enjoy a contest, but that is enjoying the contest. When the person enjoys the fact that they are physically overpowering someone, and their victim is unable to defend themself, that is when the person is going over to the Dark Side. I'm ashamed to admit, it is an intoxicating feeling to fight someone (even if they started it) and know that you are not only going to beat the Ess Haitch One Tee out of them, but that nothing they do will be able to stop you or hurt you, and that you are going to totally dominate them. The first, and really only time I have experienced this was when I was in a fight at school, and used my martial arts training to work over a kid that had picked a fight with me, but I was then so ashamed and disgusted with myself, that I strove to learn to master my temper and emotions so I wouldn't ever do it again. I have occasionally since had to use my martial arts skills to defend myself and others, but I have never let myself take pleasure in what I did to the attackers, only the satisfaction that I had done what needed to be done, and done it properly... I hope that clarifies it a bit better for you
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Oct 21, 2005 16:52:14 GMT -5
I know where you'er coming from Tanzan. I think I understand what the jedi mean by the detactment bit, espcially while fighting someone. If the emotions are in control the person can slip up more easily. They'er unable to see patterns in fighting style on the opponenet. The detactment(for lack of the proper term),thing happnes to me when there's emergancy situation or in the first instance, a fight. I was attacked by a very large bully at age 13 on the way home from school. I was pretty little for my age, wearing size 6X clothing, weighing 98 pounds. The bully had 2 other bigger kids with him standing behind him watching while he harrassed me. Swatting my books out of my hands. I actually felt no emotion during the event. I wasn't scared, or angry, not even annoyed. I only wanted him to leave me alone. Next thing I knew, a blur moved by swatting the leader in the face and he's on the ground holding his face. My hand seemed to move all by itself. My senses sharpened, my mind is very clear, I'd noticed I didn't even have adrenaline rush during the incident but after it was over.
I was more concerned for the leader I'd hit then myself or his cronies. Odd huh?
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 21, 2005 17:13:56 GMT -5
I think it's one of those things that once it happens, you either realize you have to change, or become that person forever. I'm glad I chose to change
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