luxeon blades

[2saberjedi]

(bow)

how do the blades get held inplace with the MR fx conversion?

i read on e-bay one way is to use tape, is that rite?

May The Force Be With You

[Olos Nay]

I don't have a MR FX conversion, but most luxeon blades are held by a "set screw" - some thumbscrew that holds the blade in place.

one of the best examples of that is the "graflex button thumbscrew" from the graflex shop
www.graflexshop.com/graflex.htm

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

the kits I have heard about use a set screw into a machined emitter piece that fits into the saber.

[Johann Shinobi]

How far into the hilt do the blades usually go?

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

that would depend upon the configuration, but I would guss about 2" as a norm.

[Jeffrek]

Amount of blade inside the hilt varies from sabre to sabre and maker to maker. Commonly around 2" is normal as Tenric says, an Ultra converted MaulFX is about 1.5". TCSS holds around 2", Ryan over at Random sabres prefers around 4" for those with blades.
For full on real hard contact fighting I prefer 3" or even 4" of the blade held if possible.

[Olos Nay]

I agree with Jeffrek - while 2" seams to be pretty much standard, I prefer 3" to 4" as well. problem is that the polycarbonate - while very rigid - is very flexible. The longer it holds in your blade, the more stable it ends up to be with the hilt. Plus, its more solid that way.

I wouldn't go any lower then 2 inch tough: the 1.5 inch maul conversion is... too little.

In addition to the 2-4 inch in the blade, I strongly suggest you add a thumbscrew to hold the blade. Without anything to hold to it, you never know when the blade will fly away.

[J'aii-Gun Jiinn]

Does the luxeon blades have the same type of plug as a El saber? I'm new at this.

[vortextwist]

no they do not since an luxeon blade has no wires or electronics in them. the led in in the hilt.

[Johann Shinobi]

yanlauzon said:

I agree with Jeffrek - while 2" seams to be pretty much standard, I prefer 3" to 4" as well. problem is that the polycarbonate - while very rigid - is very flexible. The longer it holds in your blade, the more stable it ends up to be with the hilt. Plus, its more solid that way.

I wouldn't go any lower then 2 inch tough: the 1.5 inch maul conversion is... too little.

In addition to the 2-4 inch in the blade, I strongly suggest you add a thumbscrew to hold the blade. Without anything to hold to it, you never know when the blade will fly away.

I was a professional sword and knife maker for a few years, now just as a hobby and your right the more you have in the hilt the more stable. I was curious, it would seem like two inches would not be enough to hold it effectively while dualling. the current design I sent Random sabers has the blade in about 6" if possible little under half way into the hilt.

[J'aii-Gun Jiinn]

vortextwist said:

no they do not since an luxeon blade has no wires or electronics in them. the led in in the hilt.

So how do I go about putting one in my EL hilt?

[Olos Nay]

johannshinobi said:

I was a professional sword and knife maker for a few years, now just as a hobby and your right the more you have in the hilt the more stable. I was curious, it would seem like two inches would not be enough to hold it effectively while dualling. the current design I sent Random sabers has the blade in about 6" if possible little under half way into the hilt.

I agree... when it comes to swords, I don't quite like half-tangs and prefer full tangs, but for electronics and batteries to have room in the hilt, I can't figure every saber would have ennough room for 6 or 8 inch of blades inside them.

This being mentionned, the graflexshop socket I have with 2 inch of very tight fit into which I added 3 bolts to secure the blade does a good job. We need to put into perspective that we're not giving full-blown hit in saber duels so the stress on the blade isn't the same...

but I definately agree: the longer secured in place, the better.

[Kyle Skirata]

neesonfan said:

vortextwist said:

no they do not since an luxeon blade has no wires or electronics in them. the led in in the hilt.

So how do I go about putting one in my EL hilt?

While there are many differences between Luxeon and EL, with regard to your question the biggest difference is that Luxeon hilts hold all of the electronics -including the LED itself- while EL hilts hold the electronics that power the blade (which contains the electro-luminescent wire).

If you wanted to convert your EL hilt into and LED hilt (something I am interested in doing), you'd want to speak to someone about the work involved. I would imagine that aside from clearing out the guts of the hilt and needing new electronics and a new blade, you'd probably have to machine the emitter's inside diameter to allow for a thicker blade.

-Kyle

[J'aii-Gun Jiinn]

Sounds like a lot of headache to me and I'm a novice to such things.my problem is I won this hilt off of Ebay. Well the switch is bad it won't light up and I don't know beans from apple butter about this.I've tried e-mailing the guy it's been 3 weeks now and nothing.So it looks like I'm on my own.It's a beautiful hilt
I love it,but it dosen't work.Maybe I should get another EL set up.
the blade works it's just the switch.What do you think because I need this for my costume

[Leda EmBorr]

If you can change the switch, that would be your best bet, if you're sure that's the problem. Do you know anyone who knows how to solder?