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Post by Primrodo on Feb 6, 2006 21:52:32 GMT -5
Back in the Fall I started working with a machinist to have a Anakin ROTS saber made, I won't go into a long story but it was pretty exciting. What was decided was to go after the version that was on display at Celebration III, with some idealization and no cracks of course. There was a few details that we liked on the C3 saber that made it pretty unique and we wanted to capture it. Some of the things we idealized was the grips being more black than the purpley look the grips at C3 had, as well as the emitter peg being brass and more flush...The C3 saber was more of a bolted in part. I will leave alot of the details and the specs to the creator if he wants to chime in. This is a work of art that I cannot wait to get, and it goes along way showing how well a project can come with people work together. The machinist never changed or made a change without first consulting me, nor did he force any design changes on me. It was a refreshing situation since the last machinist I worked with. Now I know you all are eager for the photos and I hope you all are just as blown away as I am!  High Res: www.petridish.net/pics/24168/100_2120.jpg High Res: www.petridish.net/pics/24168/100_2121.jpg High Res: www.petridish.net/pics/24168/100_2122.jpg High Res: www.petridish.net/pics/24168/100_2123.jpg High Res: www.petridish.net/pics/24168/100_2124.jpg High Res: www.petridish.net/pics/24168/100_2125.jpg |
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Post by Mon-Jas Charan on Feb 6, 2006 22:03:04 GMT -5
Truly incredible.
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Post by jayden on Feb 6, 2006 23:13:38 GMT -5
very nicely done. great job
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Post by jedidad on Feb 7, 2006 0:11:21 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D All I can say is, "Please someone get me some sun glass's, This saber is blinding me" I can't put into word how impressed I am, I am just stuned. Fantastic job to you and your machinest. 8-)Jedidad  |
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Feb 7, 2006 6:54:43 GMT -5
That's really nicely executed, I'm glad to hear your experience with the machinist was better than the one I'd previously read about  One thing I do not understand with the Graflex sabers though... Why is the activation matrix positioned on the side of the hilt, rather than the top or bottom? Anakints AotC saber had the activation matrix on the 'front' of the saber (in line with the lowest point of the emitter shroud) and as Darth Vader, had it similarly positioned (although the RotS Vader saber had it positioned on the 'back' of the saber, in line with the highest point of the emitter shroud) |
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Post by jaiven on Feb 7, 2006 8:27:04 GMT -5
What is your machinists Name, and how can I contact him. That work is incredible. I would love to have something made from him. Please share the number with us.
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 7, 2006 13:43:30 GMT -5
From my machinist:
First off, I'd like to thank Primrodo for giving me the opportunity to make this saber. As he said, it was at times rather frustrating, but I used it as a valuable experience to learn my potential as a 'garage' machinist and the abilities of my machines. That being said, your kind words of praise toward Primrodo let me know that I did a good job on this saber.
Here are some specs on this saber.
Primrodo supplied me with several pics of the saber as seen at C3 and I scaled off of these basing it on a 1 3/8" od on the main body. I used an MR LE I personally own to fill out any details not clear enough to be determined from the pictures. Some of the differences between the MR and the C3 saber are the overall length, grip and covertech knob placement, activation circuit, detail on endcap, and shape of grips. Overall it has a polished finsh on the exposed aluminum, brass and copper pieces, as well as 3 black anodized pieces. Weight wise, it tops the scales at a lean 1 1/2 pounds, almost half the weight of my MR LE.
It consists of 47 seperate pieces: 15 machined aluminun, 6 machined brass, 2 machined copper, 6 machined Delrin, 4 borrowed parts, 1 custom made piece from a seperate jobber, and 13 pieces of hardware. Total time invested on this project exceed 250 man hours.
With the exception of the activation circuit card, red button bezel, spring, cup, and retaining ring all the other parts were machined. The 13 pieces of hardware include the variuos threaded rod, nuts and screws needed to hold everything together.
I did all my own polishing and anodized the 3 pieces myself (unfortunately, I was continualy having problems maintaining a polished clear finish after anodizing so this was abandoned in favor of just polishing the aluminum).
The activation circuit was based on the artwork present on the C3 saber and not the MR artwork. I originally had planned to etch this myself but was unable to satisfactorry results and ended up relying on a secondary source to get it made. I then cut the piece to fit and mounted it.
I could go on all day about how it was made but I will leave that alone unless anybody is really interested in the entire sage of it's construction. Just to make sure this saber maintains it's personality, I have promised Primrodo that this will be a very special saber as I have no plans to make another like it. Kind of like a SUPER-elite edition.
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 7, 2006 13:49:45 GMT -5
Tanzan, the clamp placement is all based on the hardware base of the flash handles used. Lukes Graflex handle woudl only allow two pobbible positions for teh clamp, and they went with the one. For Anakins AOTC they followed the vader sabers which had a specific alignment as well for below the shroud:  The Vader saber made for Revenge of the Sith though was modelled after yet another saber, what most call the "Barbicon"  Hope that answers that Thanks for all the compliments! |
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Feb 7, 2006 16:38:37 GMT -5
Tanzan, the clamp placement is all based on the hardware base of the flash handles used. Lukes Graflex handle woudl only allow two pobbible positions for teh clamp, and they went with the one. For Anakins AOTC they followed the vader sabers which had a specific alignment as well for below the shroud: Hope that answers that It does, but it also brings up another question, can the clamp on the Graflex only be attatched in two orientations? I haven't ever seen an authentic unit 'in the flesh', but I was always under the impression that the clamp was completely removeable (Hence why I thought it could be positioned in any orientation) Is this not the case? Thanks for all the compliments! You're welcome, it's a really nice saber |
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 7, 2006 20:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by Olos Nay on Feb 7, 2006 22:39:56 GMT -5
Tanzan - its actually the clamp that keeps the grafles flashgun assembled...
I have one and wouldn't want any MR replica to replace it.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Feb 7, 2006 22:54:37 GMT -5
I also have an original graflex conversion saber... It's as close to the actual prop as you can get, I think.
Primrodo, it's just a work of art, that saber! Truly a masterpiece!
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Post by Seda Navilli on Feb 8, 2006 5:13:36 GMT -5
Its worked out beautifully Justin. Interesting that you chose that etching over the RotS one, good idea - it makes the saber unique, you know that its definitely not an MR one. One thing that caught my eye was the covertech positioning - MR put it on the side dont they? Yours seems to be a little further around the saber. Was this a personal preference, or something MR got wrong?
Whats the weight like? I always thought the MR ones were far too heavy...
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Feb 8, 2006 10:32:44 GMT -5
Ahh, I see it now, each end of the tube connects to an end of the clamp rather than connecting to each other... (UK lightbulbs fit in a similar way, rather than the American fitting (which the profanity censor would probably mangle  ) I'd thought the two halves of the tube connected to each other, and the clamp simply slid over the top to hold them in place... That all makes sence now |
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Post by Primrodo on Feb 8, 2006 12:37:52 GMT -5
Glad I could help Tanzan Seda, Actually the etching is accurate, but not the "official" version:  As for the placement, its accuarte to the C3 saber..who knows what MR was doing...they idealized it though  It weighs about a pound and a half...more than half of MRs |
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One thing I do not understand with the Graflex sabers though... Why is the activation matrix positioned on the side of the hilt, rather than the top or bottom? Anakints AotC saber had the activation matrix on the 'front' of the saber (in line with the lowest point of the emitter shroud) and as Darth Vader, had it similarly positioned (although the RotS Vader saber had it positioned on the 'back' of the saber, in line with the highest point of the emitter shroud) 
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