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Post by Olos Nay on Feb 19, 2007 11:19:05 GMT -5
Congrats Kryy! being wired is a lot different then plain holding the weapon - the equipment isn't the same, and the mobility isn't as well. It seams like a ritual to put on the conductive suit... I didn't do it often, but liked it while taking fencing lessons in college.
I agree, fencing is a very good sportive activity - has several of the advantages video games would give you for coordination, while having you move around and exercise in a relaxed way. Keep up the good work!!
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Feb 19, 2007 18:28:59 GMT -5
Thanks, ya'll! I never knew this could be so much fun! Now hubby lets me know whenever there's a "sword fighting" movie on TV -- last night it was "Mask of Zorro" (the first one with Anthony Hopkins). Even though it's all staged of course, it's fun to understand what they're doing... I loved it when young Zorro was swinging the rapier like a wild man and old Zorro knocked it right out of his hand with one quick movement. (Here's your humility lesson for the day.... made me think of young Anakin and then Luke...) Which I'm sure is the reason for the "pistol grip" on the electrical foil -- frankly I don't like the pistol grip on the épée but it's not too bad on the foil. Olos, you are right about mobility (or lack thereof) -- I was so wrapped up, I felt like the little brother in the snowsuit in "A Christmas Story" (the Red Ryder BB gun movie But it was still too much fun.... I do wish they had some kind of "live" lightsaber classes here in Atlanta, as they do in New York, LA, and some other places. I'd love to go... But I'm really enjoying the fencing!
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Feb 19, 2007 18:37:45 GMT -5
Well, I'm an hour away from the classes in NY, but I still can never get there. At least, not on a regular basis. It's tough trekking into the city on a school night. I'd have to leave at 5 and I'd get home around 10. That's prime family time.
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Feb 19, 2007 19:12:40 GMT -5
Well, I'm an hour away from the classes in NY, but I still can never get there. At least, not on a regular basis. It's tough trekking into the city on a school night. I'd have to leave at 5 and I'd get home around 10. That's prime family time. What? -- we can't just play all of the time??? (Just kidding... I do have some adult family members who haven't figured that out yet, and it's pretty sad!) But yes, agreed 100%, family time is too precious -- especially when yours are about to go away to college! I don't have kids, so I don't have those responsibilities that most "normal" people do, and my husband works at night a lot. But last week he was off on Thursday, so he came to watch, and he kept asking how long we were staying. I sort of alternated between being annoyed and feeling guilty... Re: lightsaber opportunities in the Atlanta area -- If something existed, even if only an occasional or one-time thing, I'd love to go, if just to have some coaching. I NEED coaching on stuff like this -- even after a lesson (either live or video), I'd like someone to correct my stance, movement, etc. We have a good coach at the fencing club, or I don't think I would have enjoyed it nearly as much. I also need to remember Olos' advice in another thread (don't remember which one) which was to "remember we're doing this for fun". Good advice!!
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Post by Olos Nay on Feb 20, 2007 11:22:01 GMT -5
Hey, I'm being quoted!!! I feel so honored.!
Yep, we're all in it for the fun. the more fun, the more we're in it.
Been trying to make that in the Montreal area, but winter snow and schedule hasn't been helpful lately. I guess I should try to have another saber training session soon. Kryy, sometimes if its not done already, you have to take it into your own hands to find others and make friendly practice sessions - you'll end up getting some help at some point.
For us, Primrodo has been helpful the few times we managed to have saberfights with him.
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Feb 21, 2007 18:58:30 GMT -5
Isn't that part of the "Master" job description? You have to dispense quotable wise sayings... like "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try." and stuff like that.
(Or Yoda's in my signature bar. OK, that's not really wise -- I just thought it was sort of "charming" and tender for the pseudo-stuffy Grand Master when he was mentoring young Scout. Sorry... rabbit trail...)
Yes, I think you may be right about having to do it myself. Hopefully this year I can meet some people in this area and we can plan to do something informal. Olos, that's actually a very good idea, and I will cogitate that and how that might work. Thanks!!
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Feb 21, 2007 19:03:59 GMT -5
I agree, fencing is a very good sportive activity - has several of the advantages video games would give you for coordination, while having you move around and exercise in a relaxed way. One other comment -- this reminds me of Gary the coach -- "Fix your feet" "Bend your knees" "Turn your body -- you're facing front too much" "Extend your arm" "Fix your grip -- you're holding your weapon like a stick" etc. etc. etc. And then "Relax!" OK, remember 48 things at once but above all, RELAX!!! Yeah, right....
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Feb 21, 2007 23:50:01 GMT -5
My coach used to say "Don't kill the bird!!" That meant to hold the weapon, not squeeze the life out of it! lol!!
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Feb 22, 2007 18:00:22 GMT -5
That's a good one -- I'm going to pass it along!
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Post by Qui-Kel Jinn on Mar 24, 2007 22:28:35 GMT -5
Ok Everyone Some Help Needed Here!!!!!!! I Need Some Drills I Can Do To Get Ready For The FX Combat Trails At C4......I Am Not Able To Get With My Sword Master For Another 2 Weeks.....I Know I Am Good, But I Wanna Be The Best And The Only Way I Know To Do That Is Practice Practice Practice........But Remember "Perfect" Practice Makes Perfect.......So Please If Anyone Knows Any Drills To Help My Training Please Post!!!!
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Mar 26, 2007 18:49:41 GMT -5
Well, I'm no expert... obviously, since I started this thread looking for advice... but I'd say to practice as much as possible to stay "loose" and limber, even if you are having to practice by yourself. I do at least a few fencing lunges every day in front of a full length mirror to check my form, posture, etc., so you might want to drill in front of a mirror so you can look especially sharp! Good luck!! Sounds like a great opportunity to show your stuff and bring home a medal!! Kryy
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Mar 28, 2007 22:13:59 GMT -5
well Qui-Kel what do you want to know. I'll help if I can. I got a chance to spar Daniel Logan this past weekend with Force fx's. Ray Park taught him some nice stuff. He didn't seem to mind my skills either so what do you need?
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Post by ze fro sirav on May 8, 2008 17:12:36 GMT -5
I have a Bokken and have watched millions (ok a lot of samuri and ninja films) and can say that If you watch the last samuri with tom cruse (I know Tom Cruse) that just what you see in that film is enough to teach you the basics of swordsmanship. then pick up you bokken, lightsaber, remote what ever and repeat slow one move at a time then gradually increase the speed and the amount of moves. all forms of combat can be learned through repitition once you learn the basics just play around with how to switch hand positions and how to spin the weapon. but know that the hilt of any weapon is where the power of that weapon comes from. Its all in the wrists baby!!! when learning from a movie you must keep in mind that while flashy cool moves look good they generaly cause you to leave yourself open and they waste your strangth. do as little as possible so that you will have the stamina to fight till the end. and finally any thing goes. do what ever it takes to win. just because your sword fighting doesnt mean you can only use the sword. use your arms and legs thats why there there. and let the sword do all the work.
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Post by J'aii-Gun Jiinn on May 9, 2008 15:12:56 GMT -5
We learn the basic box.attack 1.rt leg 2.lt leg 3.rt shoulder 4 lft shoulder 5.over head split.All the swings are a "windmill"motion.Defense 1.rt leg 2.lft leg 3.rt shoulder 4.lft shoulder 5.Head.If you want to see it look up the Order of Kai Kan on youtube. My stuff isn't in there as of yet,but it will be
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on May 12, 2008 23:45:28 GMT -5
Essentailly there are 8 basic cuts used to teach stage swordsmanship and traditional swordsmanship depending on eastern or western philosophies respectively. When they did the Visiual Dictionary they used this guide to divide the picture you see of Mace Windu so that they could give a somewhat realiztic view of the target zones so that readers felt more connected to how strikes were used. However please keep in mind that this changed per film depending on what the director wanted to see or edit. I've seen a lot of stuff on you tube lately using videos to show techniques for Lightsaber training. I think that's a wonderful idea but please keep in mind that a force fx saber or parks or even a stick can still do soem damage to someone of not used correctly so I would advise people to put disclaimers on their videos so that if two kids look on you tube and see one of our members videos and try it and say gets their head split open or etc that our member cannot be held responceable. Films as a refrence tool are great for those who do not access to a professional studio or Dojo for Sword training. However again folks there is a difference between professional or stage fighting for films and actual trained combat, I loved the last samurai and there are some great katas in it as well some more realistic moves and cuts but it's not a well rounded base for basics. It's a film and yes you can learn the same way he spins a sword or twists it but that isn't a basic technique, it's a showy move for a film that keeps us entertained and that's what a Lightsaber is, the ultimate sword because even if it's not being used you need to watch it. If you want a better base to bbuild your techniques on(keeping in mind that before I got into stage combat as a profession I took my cues from a film series and tv show called Highlander ). Which I still love but horrible for sword training on refecltion. Watch old samurai films like Lone Wolf and cub, things of that Genre because in early Japanses film making they used real katas and strikes but simply let the other actor know where to block them. Watch the speed and the flow. I think if you watch these you'll have a much beter rounded base for basics. Modern films cut and edit a lot so your not always seeing a wide shot nor seeing the actual complete cut or stike. The fact that there are so many who actually take time these days to learn or try to learn how to swinfg their fx sabers correctly or such is such a wonderful thing to see not only as a Stage Fight Planner but also as a fan who loves responceable fans Great to see folks
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