Cozmo
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Post by Cozmo on Jan 30, 2008 0:11:24 GMT -5
...in my opinion, anyway, Chandrila.
Let's think about it. He's got a British accent, as does Mon Mothma (also a Chandrilan). He's a skilled negotiator who seeks peace before resorting to violence. He loves the Republic and its democratic system. Chandrila, even during the New Order, ran itself on a democratic government (indeed, they were known for their Chandrilan House), and this environment produced many diplomats and negotiators.
According to Wookieepedia, Obi was the "first son of a moderately wealthy family", and "had vague memories of playing with his brother, Owen, and of a green, grassy planet." Chandrila, located in the Core Worlds territory, requires a certain amount of affluence to live there (as do most core worlds). Due to their love of nature, Chandrilan families keep a garden, pond, or some other sort of natural environment in their yards as a symbol of their harmony with nature. The government also requires families to stay small in order to prevent overpopulation.
I'm writing a story about Obi-Wan going to visit his family for the first time since he'd been taken by the Jedi (which, if he has memories of his brother, I'd assume that he'd have been 3 or 4 years old when taken), and it would be difficult to write if I didn't put anything about his home planet in there. Then it'd be like in the Simpsons where, whenever you're about to learn what state Springfield is in, something spoils it or they cut to something else.
Anyway, have any of you Obi-Wan lovers out there thought about where he's from? I'd love to hear what you think and why.
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Post by Cara Drume on Jan 30, 2008 9:45:07 GMT -5
Owen ain't Obi-Wan's brother. From all I know, Owen was born on Tatooine, and his last name doesn't match. It may have been so in the novelization of ROTJ, but not in the movies...and IMHO, the movies are the only real 'canon' out there.
I always thought Obi-Wan was from Coruscant. But then I haven't done that much reasearch into his background.
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Post by Cozmo on Jan 30, 2008 10:10:34 GMT -5
Here's what Wookieepedia says:
"Early printings of the novelization of Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi included a fragment identifying an Owen (implied to be Luke Skywalker's adoptive uncle) as Obi-Wan Kenobi's brother. Said brother was later alluded to in the Jedi Apprentice book series. However, Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones revealed Luke's uncle as Anakin Skywalker's step-brother, and gave him the surname Lars, establishing him as a different individual than Kenobi's brother. Mentions of Owen were eliminated from later printings of the Return of the Jedi novelization, leaving Obi-Wan's brother as a mostly unexplored character. It is conceivable that the name similarities may have given rise (in-universe) to an erroneous conflation of the two Owens in galactic records, and thus account for the out-of-universe misidentification."
Wookieepedia, taking sources from the Jedi Apprentice books and Visual Dictionaries and such, said that his accent is Coruscanti, but his homeworld is never actually revealed. In my opinion, that leaves it open to conjecture.
So I'm just going to conject away. ;D
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Post by Cara Drume on Jan 30, 2008 12:19:04 GMT -5
Fair enough. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. 
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on Jan 30, 2008 12:28:35 GMT -5
When in doubt, I always refer to the StarWars.com Databank. www.starwars.com/databank/character/obiwankenobi/index.htmlAsa for the Owen thing, according to one of the first Jedi Apprentice books, Obi DOES have a brotheramed Owen, just not Owen Lars. Origibnally, though, I believe Lucas did have Owen Lars and Obi-Wan be brothers, but then changed his mind
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Post by Granny-Wan on Jan 30, 2008 12:55:19 GMT -5
Yes, it's true that Owen was supposed to be his brother, and it was changed. I think it's weird that Obi-Wan and Yoda are two of the most important Jedi, and neither one has a homeworld listed. Come on, someone must know where they are from!!! Cozmo, you know my opinion is that when you're writing your own stories, canon goes out the window.... it's YOUR story, and you should write it the way you feel it should be! Chandrila... sounds a bit like Shangrila, doesn't it? Personally, I like it... if you use it your Obi-Wan saga, may I use it mine? 
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Post by I Five on Jan 30, 2008 13:28:13 GMT -5
Asa for the Owen thing, according to one of the first Jedi Apprentice books, Obi DOES have a brotheramed Owen, just not Owen Lars. ;D ;D Jedi Apprentice books ;D ;D
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Cozmo
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Post by Cozmo on Jan 30, 2008 13:54:05 GMT -5
Yes, it's true that Owen was supposed to be his brother, and it was changed. I think it's weird that Obi-Wan and Yoda are two of the most important Jedi, and neither one has a homeworld listed. Come on, someone must know where they are from!!! Cozmo, you know my opinion is that when you're writing your own stories, canon goes out the window.... it's YOUR story, and you should write it the way you feel it should be! Chandrila... sounds a bit like Shangrila, doesn't it? Personally, I like it... if you use it your Obi-Wan saga, may I use it mine?  What's mine is yours, my friend.  Feel free to incorporate any of my stuff into any of your stuff. Chandrila sounds like a sweet place to live. In fact, I might have to invent my roots as Chandrilan once I get my costume in order and actually join TJA, since their love of nature sounds like the perfect beginning for an organic Jedi like my character. And Cara, just so you know, I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you or anything. I'm gathering you're a Star Wars purist (meaning you consider only the films to be canon), and I can totally respect that. Me being a writer, I like to include the Lucas-sanctioned books as well. But like you said, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
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Post by Granny-Wan on Jan 30, 2008 15:18:47 GMT -5
Traelyn is from Locaria, a made-up planet that's so miserable that in her old age she thanks Qui-Gon, in his ghostly form of course, for rescuing her from that mudball.... LOL
Chandrila sounds much nicer...
I guess I should get around to writing my backstory...
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Post by J'aii-Gun Jiinn on Jan 30, 2008 15:40:58 GMT -5
I think the Owen reference is in the original novel of Star Wars(ANH).It was changed.In the Decipher Card game It still lists Owen Lars as Obi's brother.
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Post by acalsohei on Jan 31, 2008 20:01:32 GMT -5
Interesting thoughts. I've also written fan fiction, and I've got my own canon, too!
Consider this: if the Jedi took prospects early enough, they likely the younglings never knew their home worlds, and the elder Jedi wouldn't tell them. In the case of humans, they could be from literally anywhere. Yoda may be a different case, since we also don't know much about his particular race. Now consider adopted adults in this galaxy. Those of you in the real world who know and have always known your background certainly would want to pin down a homeworld for everyone, but there are some here who may never know their background. (It is still illegal for some adopted adults to have their OWN birth certificates and medical information. I have great difficulty travelling with my birth certificate, because the real one doesn't have my name on it, and the one with my legal name is not my original, legal certificate.)
Not knowing presents a whole new way of thinking!
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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Feb 6, 2008 22:51:58 GMT -5
Perhaps I can find the references mentioned in my SW OT books....I bought them when they were first published after the original releases.....they should be the unedited ones. Cozmo: Your reasoning is sound enough and as yet it has not been pinned down. I say go with it. I have my own system and homeworld written up for my character and stories. I even doctored a SW galaxy map to show its location LINK. The Somantus Asteroid belt and binary system within. Located in the lower Right hand quadrant near Wild Space and Hutt controlled space.
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Post by Cozmo on Feb 7, 2008 11:53:37 GMT -5
That's a sweet map, Tenric. I'm going to back and read your stories again.
I wonder how many systems were invented by SW authors and are now canon...like, did Bakura exist before Kathy Tyers wrote about it?
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Post by Granny-Wan on Feb 7, 2008 14:42:42 GMT -5
I think most of the systems were created by EU writers... originally there was Tatooine and Alderaan... and Yavin....
Awesome map!
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Post by Cara Drume on Feb 7, 2008 19:18:42 GMT -5
Yup, Purist all the way. I wasn't looking to fight either. All's well. 
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