Andle Di-Ranos
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Post by Andle Di-Ranos on Sept 10, 2005 11:29:01 GMT -5
Ive heard countless times that when a jedi dies they live on through the force and in rare occasions such as yoda, obiwan, and anakin can return from the netherrelalm of the force. But what happens when a sith dies? In the first Knights of the old republic game when you visit the ancient sith lord tomb of Ajunta Pall he returns in a spirit form wanting you to take his weapons away. Its like he is trapped and can never escape to become one with the force. So can anyone help me out?  |
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Sept 11, 2005 9:08:47 GMT -5
Supposedly, if they were powerful enough Sith, their spirits remain without becoming one with the Force.
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Andle Di-Ranos
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Post by Andle Di-Ranos on Sept 11, 2005 10:28:04 GMT -5
So basically they have no future and are trapped forever, right?
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Sept 11, 2005 12:47:10 GMT -5
I don't think it's ever been made clear what happens to either Sith or Jedi after they die. My guess is that they all return to the Force, losing their individulaity, but "living" on with the generic living background signal in the galaxy. Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Yoda retaining their identity beyond death is unusual and presumably beyond the power of a Sith. And I wonder how long they last in that disembodied state? They may eventually fade back into the Force with time.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Sept 11, 2005 22:34:16 GMT -5
.... They may eventually fade back into the Force with time.
Yes I read this somewhere in the post-RotJ EU... Old Ben could only stick around for a limited amount of time. |
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Sept 12, 2005 8:38:17 GMT -5
So basically they have no future and are trapped forever, right? Like any other ghost, they'd be stuck until they accept that they're dead. |
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Post by kivaanzion on Sept 12, 2005 8:46:39 GMT -5
I think I read in some EU timeline that 5 years after ROTJ- Old Ben contacts Luke for the last time-
He tells Luke that he will no longer be able to maintain his Spirit image/voice and will finally move on to another realm.
In effect it is Ben's second death scene.
*Found it! It is in "Heir to the Empire".
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Post by Andle Di-Ranos on Sept 12, 2005 15:28:12 GMT -5
So basically they have no future and are trapped forever, right? Like any other ghost, they'd be stuck until they accept that they're dead. So basically what ive concluded is the jedi help others and save their power until they join the force while the sith forfill their wants and waste their power while they are living only to destroy the future they could have had. Am I right? |
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Sept 12, 2005 18:38:23 GMT -5
*quotes just to do the layed box effect* thread=1126369741 post=1126556892] Like any other ghost, they'd be stuck until they accept that they're dead. So basically what ive concluded is the jedi help others and save their power until they join the force while the sith forfill their wants and waste their power while they are living only to destroy the future they could have had. Am I right?[/quote] Greed and power lust that the Dark Side strives for does that... |
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Sept 12, 2005 19:28:37 GMT -5
I'd say that it all depends on the Force practitioner and their level of skill. I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that Obi-Wan could only manifest for about 10 years after his death... Qui-Gon didn't know how to manifest himself visually, but he was able to communicate with Master Yoda over 10 years after his death... Exar Kun was able to manifest himself several millenia after his death...
I wonder if Darth Maul haunts the Theed Palace Reactor Room? ;D
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Post by Starkindler (The Naked Jedi) on Sept 12, 2005 21:00:59 GMT -5
Perhaps it's more an issue of "entanglements".
Either the things left undone, or those left behind that anchor either to this life.
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Post by Cara Drume on Sept 14, 2005 0:30:31 GMT -5
Hmm...fascinating question..
If Jedi become one with the Force, then maybe Sith do stick around...
Or maybe, if they're just your average, everyday Sith they go to the hot basement from whence there is no return...
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Post by himiko sabbrawrra on Sept 14, 2005 11:44:37 GMT -5
SO why was qui-gon able to stay longer then Ben?
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Sept 14, 2005 15:06:57 GMT -5
I think it's just something that varies with the individual Force user...
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Post by Xorren Hedrasii on Sept 14, 2005 16:39:37 GMT -5
I can imagine Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan conversing after they had both joined the force and it goes something like this...
Obi-Wan: Alas Master, I've lost communication with the matter universe...
Qui-Gon: What!? It's only been ten years! Didn't I teach you anything?
Obi-Wan: Yes, I should've listened I suppose. I wonder...
Qui-Gon: So, now you consider my teachings and start thinking outside the box!
LOL...Sorry for that bit of insanity I've just always imagined Qui-Gon using his odd sense of humor to annoy the ever stoic Obi-Wan, at least once after they are both with the force.
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