Philosophy of the Code vs. Love

[shaymondzid1]

Hello,

I wish to talk about the Jedi Code that is spoken throughout the saga. I would like to get a reflection on your thoughts of the story. I had a few Players from my SW RPG table game, asked me why Jedi can't get married &/or have a romantic relationship, thus the Jedi High Council is very much against it. Since I was running an all Jedi storyline, it seemed a good question.

In my research, I have found that according in the expanded universe. Two Jedi had fell in love,...durring the time of the Great Sith War. Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Sunrider. While the two star-crossed lovers were architects that changed history in the galaxy. Nomi had a daughter from another Jedi named, Andur who died. Perhaps in the days of yore, Jedi could marry.


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[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

In the days of yore I do believe.......as in the days to come (Luke decides to allow it in the NJO).
Since the JEdi were to be servants of the Republic (ie. everyone) they were not to have personal attachments that would make them "Un-neutral" so to speak. THey were to view all life as equally important in their mission as ambassadors and arbitrators galaxy wide.
The lack of such attachments would also have made it extremely difficult to pressure or blackmail a Jedi into siding with one over another. They would be free to be impartial and thus fair and just.....at least in theory.

[methos]

i thought nomi sunrider was having a relationship with jolee bindo?

[J'aii-Gun Jiinn]

If Jedi retire their staus as an active jedi.Most of the jedi I've read about has fell in love.Qui-Gon,Obi-Wan,Quinlan Vos.Some had dire consquences others have not.This is all EU of course

[Jarren Landcaster]

Jolee Bindo married Sunrider, but he fell from the order though. He knew he would've been exiled anyway. The thing of it is the reason force sensitives are takin away from their parents as infants. To have a connection of love that is so great to parents or to a member of the opposite sex was clearly explained why such a feat is done in EPII and EPIII. Anakin fell closer to the darkside when his attachment to his mother was broken at the time of her death, even if it was due to the sandpeople, and the line was crossed when he saw a glimpse of the possible future with Padme dying. The fear overwhelmed him of loosing another loveone. That's why the jedi has such codes. When a brotherin falls, there is a remorse, but nothing as great as seeing a loved one falling in battle or due to an assasin. A jedi's mind has to be clear on the events of the present and not worries of the heart.

[shaymondzid1]

Despite the strict morals and ethics that guides every Jedi. The High Council have given special dispensation to a few,...such as, Jedi Master Ki-Adi-Mundi. His species are known as the Cereans, thus known to have low birth rates. In his culture they allow more than one wife or husband to guarantee to procreation. Since the Order respect and serve all life, it would be counterproductive, thus be perceived as genocide to ask such a sacrifice.

M.

[Leda EmBorr]

Well, as seen in RotS, the jedi learned the hard way that totally forbidding attachments was wrong, as it led to Anakin's downfall. Yoda admitted that the inability to change over time was a big mistake.

[Bryanakin]

Anakin wasn't the only Jedi who loved.

After reading a few EU novels, it looks like Anakin wasn't the only Jedi during the PT to violate the Jedi Code against romantically loving another. I count the following:

Qui-Gon Jin and Tahl
Obi-Wan Kenobi and Siri Tachi
Nejja Halcyon and anonymous wife (with one son)

So was it really a good idea to forbid love and attachment? Looks like a handful of Jedi thought otherwise.

[dalailala]

Alright, I'm late to what's probably a dead message....

My guess is that since the jedi way is largely a philosophy, there is no overwheming right way for all eternity. The opinion on such matters will ebb and flow in favor of and against romantic attachment over periods of hundreds of years. Each jedi probably leans toward one end of the spectrum of the philosophy or the other, but depending on who sits the Jedi Council the general edict of whether or not to marry could change. It's not a good comparison, really, but similar to whether or not Catholics can eat meat on Friday... in a previous century it was a sin, this century, not so much...

So, depending on what era your game is set in, how close it is to Yoda's control of the council or to Luke's, or to the ancient times.... well, you could probably choose either way . Beyond that, of course, the Jedi are... well, I was going to say, "only human," but you know what I mean - some of them are going to form romantic attachments whether it's acceptable or not, whether the Jedi him/herself thinks its acceptable. Sometimes love just happens.... (Thank the Force!)

-lala