|
|
Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Jun 12, 2005 8:44:51 GMT -5
When I look at the 6 SW films I wonder if perhaps the EU should be viewed in a similar way as fan fiction. No one worries about the continuity of the body of fan fiction; each work is just supposed to follow the path set by the movies (at the time). I suppose it's the same with the licensed fiction as well.
It's fairly obvious from the prequel films that Lucas did not use the EU as either a guide or a constraint to what he was writing. None of the EU books say a word about the Jedi Temple. Nobody knew about it until TPM came out. And with the re-release of ROTJ on DVD, we know that the Jedi Temple is still there. It's too large of a hole to ignore that the pre-prequel EU never mentions Luke dealing with it. And many pre-prequel, post-ROTJ, EU Jedi appear to come from Jedi families, even though it's clearly stated that Republic Jedi are forbidden familial attachments.
Now LFL seems to have made some effort to get quality writers for the games, comics and books. But do they warn the writers about being contradicted in future film work? I assume so.
Will a "new" EU evolve with future cartoons and TV shows?
|
|
|
|
Post by lazlototh on Jun 12, 2005 9:52:47 GMT -5
Short answer? Yep. Longer answer: I hope not too much. If the continuity gets too bad, it will be impossible to follow the story arcs...
|
|
|
|
Post by tanzanlinnear on Jun 13, 2005 0:28:33 GMT -5
It's fairly obvious from the prequel films that Lucas did not use the EU as either a guide or a constraint to what he was writing.
I think the problem is that Lucas just doesn't care anymore (He's said himself that he now feels he has the right to fail [ergo: he doesn't have to try] ) and because he was surrounded by spineless yesmen like Rick McCallum, noone dared call him up on any of the mistakes he was making. |
|
|
|
Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Jun 16, 2005 23:08:34 GMT -5
No, that doesn't make any sense. Lucas obviously DOES care. There's a lot of heart in the prequel movies. His jokes aren't always funny and the dialogue hasn't changed since the 70's, but he cares. The prequels were made for the art of it. It's so rare to see a Hollywood product made for the art. Well, there's a lot of merchandising, too, but the primary driver was the story Lucas had in his head.
The EU was never in Lucas's head, so he didn't use it as a contributing factor for the prequels. There was obviously a demand for more Star Wars, so LFL licensed some book and game products in the 80's and then it kept going. But Lucas didn't give it any more than the minimum of guidance. He didn't start filling out the prequel/Clone Wars story until the 90's and I assume he wasn't going let any of the EU stuff force him into deciding on the background details until he was ready to. That seems to be how a lot of TV/movie creators treat fan fiction. It's there, but it's not part of the real story. That's where it looks like where EU fits in. Like fan fiction.
It will be confusing if the EU starts developing new tangents, contradictory to what's already been established, but I suppose they already have that. I remember one book where Luke was specifically looking for his long, lost mother. Well, that's a no go now. And now we're pretty sure that there are loose, hidden Jedi somewhere in the galaxy. It looks odd that they wouldn't reveal themselves to Luke 20+ some years after the Emperor goes down. Unless they managed to die before Luke ended the Empire, and Luke really was the last one. Well, that would be more depressing to me than a different tangent for the EU.
|
|
|
|
Post by Leda EmBorr on Jun 17, 2005 1:35:51 GMT -5
The prequels were made for the art of it. It's so rare to see a Hollywood product made for the art. Well, there's a lot of merchandising, too, but the primary driver was the story Lucas had in his head.
 |
|
|
|
Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Jun 17, 2005 19:18:34 GMT -5
And now when I think about it.....Luke may be the last of the Jedi after all. He'll pass on what he learns, but the new order may not be Jedi. They certainly wouldn't be the same order as what was destroyed by Palpatine, even if they took the same name. Any escapees from Order 66 may have gotten lives for themselves that violate the old code. And while they may go back to the ways of the Force (if they ever left them), they may not go back to the old rules. They'll have to come up with their own code, especially for anyone new coming in.
I think they should think twice about subcontracting themselves out to the government again. Which, I think, was something that came out at the end of "Unifying Force".
|
|
|
|
Post by Kyrian Zenda on Jul 3, 2005 18:17:28 GMT -5
About Luke's mother... i think it turns out that she was a fake. Though any Jedi that did survive were probably out in the wilds, unconnected from the universe at large, which may explain their silence. A bit like Obi-Wan, cept he was "lookin after" Luke. Plus Luke wears black, and with his father being the Betrayer, they may be extremely reluctant to get in touch.
|
|
