Aquiring "Jedi" combat skills

[Bunja Arlac]

I've been fighting for close to a year and a half in a group called dagorhir. if your familiar with the sca it's similiar to that, the main difference being we use padded weapons rather than padded fighters and the fighting is alot faster paced with the lighter weapons.

anyway, at our big anual event, ragnarock, we were doing a castle siege, I was on the attacking side. an archer shot an arrow at me and i didn't even see it. I just leaned back out of the way of it on reflex. It didn't register until it was passing by my right eye. as soon as it happened i couldn't help but think that the force was with me on that one.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

LOL Ki Vann,
if it gets you out of rubberband fligging range, do it.:-) I'm not an aggressive person either, not any more. I used to have an Anikan-ish temper until God helped me learn to control it. I can feel the emotions but they'er not going to be the controling force in me, He is.

Ok, I had a similar instant of your rubber band thing but mine had to do with being goalie in a hockey game. None of us had thye right goalie equipment so we used what was on hand. Catcher's mask, boxing glove. No padding.(didn't have it). I was watching the players swat the puck about got ready to deflect anhything coming near my zone. My hand with the boxing glove shot out catching this thing that was zipping past my face while my head twiched out of it's way. If it diodn't move, I'd have been beaned. and those plastic pucks, I'm sure would hurt like the devil. I squating there looking dumbfounded at my boxing gloved hand with the puck inside. My catching skills aren't good because of a lack of deph perception.(Blind in one eye, almost completely in the other.)Wondering how on earth did I not only the puck but how did I see it. I'm blind in the right eye. Since then any time I'm playing goalie for hockey or soccer(football) nothing gets past me. I can throw or shot and hit whatever target I'm aiming for. <scratches head> I can't explain this for the life of me.

Maybe this is a part of the Jedi Combat skills.<big shrug>.

[lazlototh]

I'm finding this thread fascinating!

I would like to share what I've learned ver the years. It started about 22 years ago with Hwarang-do, an old Korean art. My teacher is a local here to California who's been around for years. As I moved around and did some time in the Service, I learned Taekwondo and found that very fun to play with. I loved practicing all the time and teaching the kids - which is the funnest part. I came back here and I'm learning Yoshinkan Aikido from my same first teacher. He is so awesome... That man changed my life in a couple of ways. He's helped me a lot in terms of spiritual concerns and learning a lot about the senses, much of which you guys have described already. It's an awesome feeling to do that sort of thing and I'm grateful for the teaching...

[Jaren Valnor]

Just last night I was reading this and thinking, "Man, I wish that I could have this feeling, just once." Well, today, at football practice, we were playing dodgeball. It was me, a small wide receiver, against three big guys. Anyway, they were whizzing the balls at me at unimaginable speeds, but I was continually ducking, jumping, and dodging, without even knowing it! I didn't realize what I was doing until the coach said, "What are you, some kind of Jedi Knight?" to which I replied, "I guess!"

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

I was a very aggressive pre-teen and early teen. It was actually the study of MArtial Arts that colmed me down. THe discipline involved, the knowledge that I was not only strong as an ox but now actually capable of inflicting lethal damage seemed to snap me out of whatever it was that made me aggressive.
I found that when I was practicing or sparring and the like I was calm and less aggressive. The more confident I was in a situation the less aggessive I was. There was no need to injure or maim an opponent if he/they couldn't hurt me (Shaolin philosophy there). If anything came within reach of my arms or feet the goal was to turn it away and redirect it. When an opponent saw they couldn't hurt you they not only gained respect for you (since the obverse meant that you were choosing NOT to hurt them) but would then be likely to return to negotiationsthat were....less....agressive....

and to echo what was said above...my temper...which had threatened to have me institutionalized as a kid....was washed away when I became a Christian....nowadays when my temper flares up I know it's because I've strayed from where I need to be and it acts as an alarm to bring me to my senses.

[Kyrian Zenda]

I've never studied any martial art or fighting discipline, and i'm a bit slow and clumsy at times. But me and my bro sometimes have mock fights with toy lightsabers, and the amount of times we speed up the fight and somehow end up deflecting mad swings is freaky. I've also had cricket balls thrown at me that i've dodged and caught, and somehow, i once won a game of pool by getting the weirdest shots i've ever seen. But the weirdest thing that ever happened was my bro was wildly hitting at me and i managed to deflect every hit, but then he threw the saber at me in frustration. Don't ask how, but i caught the saber BY THE HILT. We just stared at each other and burst out laughing.

[Solinbeb Newau]

jauhzmynn said:

Lightening storms. Argh, I don't like those. I have felt that shockwave and I'm not too keen on t. The storms in Florida are loud. Yesterday's storm nearly sent me climbing the walls. :-)

This Texas jedi has a fascination with thunderstorms...growing up in Tornado Alley does that.

I was living in Denton (and working in Lewisville) when I got that experience...now I'm back in my home town of Amarillo and still chasing storms.

[tanzanlinnear]

jauhzmynn said:

This is all fascinating. At least now I've a name to put on the sense and a little information of how it works. At least in theory. What more can you guys share? Tanzan, Shatir and all? What about Tai Chi(And the other names it goes by.) has anyone noticed a higher aggressivness with the brain wave shift? A friend of mine seems to be a little more apt to be aggressive during that state.

Well, from my own experiences, I'd say that it depends to a degree on the person's level of training. When I was about 11 or 12, before I learned to controll my temper, a kid at school picked a fight with me, and rather than walking away from it, I used my martial arts to completely overpower them, almost like when Anakin kills the Seperatist Council on Mustafar. I knew the kid couldn't do anything to hurt me, let alone stop me, and I just kept slapping him around until a teacher was called. That's when I realized I had to learn to control my temper, so I started focussing more on the mental disciplines, and learned the self-control I needed.
As for your friend being more aggressive while in that state of heightened mental awareness, it could be a case of they are enjoying their physical prowess, but it could also be a case of the forms have become 'muscle memory', and they are simply executing them not only as efficiently as possible, but also without conscious thought. The incident I mentioned before where my best friend and I were attacked would certainly have seemed to an observer that we were really working the kids over, when from our perspectives, we were simply threatened and reacted as we'd been trained to do without conscious thought.

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

I can agree with the "aggressive" appearance of muscle memory.
I have been known to react rather violently when caught by surprize...
while dating my wife and walking her home one night I was surprized by a cat who jumped onto a garbage can in my peripheral vision and I nearly hit the cat with the kick I threw at the can....another time one of my mother's friends jumped at me from around the corner in a hallway and said "BO..." she didn't get the last part out because I grabbed her by the collar, spun her around, threw her against the wall )with her feet off the ground) and was about to punch her square in the face before I even realized it was her (and she was taller thanI was and outweighed me)....another time my dad tried to wake me for school and shook me. I woke up, grabbed his arm, twisted and threw him into the closet door (which cracked). From then on he just came to the foot of my bed and shook the whole bed to wake me.

[Solinbeb Newau]

starkindler said:

....another time my dad tried to wake me for school and shook me. I woke up, grabbed his arm, twisted and threw him into the closet door (which cracked). From then on he just came to the foot of my bed and shook the whole bed to wake me.

Sounds like what almost happens to me when I try to wake up my wife.

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

;D ;D ;D ;D

[ayanabashu]

starkindler said:

I can agree with the "aggressive" appearance of muscle memory.
another time my dad tried to wake me for school and shook me. I woke up, grabbed his arm, twisted and threw him into the closet door (which cracked). From then on he just came to the foot of my bed and shook the whole bed to wake me.

I still react that way even after 20+ years out of the navy. All my friends and family know to yell through the closed bedroom door or from outside my tent if we're camping. It's a learned response from having several wackos in the same compartment on the ship.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

"my temper...which had threatened to have me institutionalized as a kid....was washed away when I became a Christian....nowadays when my temper flares up I know it's because I've strayed from where I need to be and it acts as an alarm to bring me to my senses. "

Washed away is an apt term to describe it. That's the only thing that keeps me calm, cool and such. It's amazing what God does and how that change can be so dramatic. I'm infinatly grateful He did remove it. I've been at the point I don't like being around overly aggresive people and defiantly dislike movies with gratuitous volence.

[Andle Di-Ranos]

jedimagus said:

Ive studied Doo-do, Yabba Dabba Do and Poo-do, hehe Just kidding.

But for real, I have been one with the Force, not just fighting, but universally.

I dont know if fear leads to the dark side, but it DOES ruin the link. (Snaps like a rubber band, even got a nose bleed once from it)

Loosing yourself to it, is THE weirdest feeling, the Loss of YOU and becoming one with everything is freighting to say the least.
It is real hard to get back to that state after doing it once, both through fear as well as through anticipation and just you.

(Theres a long set of stories, People think im nuts, but, it did happen, and will again i hope)

I agree with you. I don't know any martial arts but one mistake is making me angry. For instance me and my cousin were fighting on the trampoline one time and he drop kicked me right in the teeth. Needless to say i lost control. I got up laughing in tears and literaly picked him up and through him off the trampoline. Some times while im playing a game i can get so mad i bust blood vessels in my eyes, and have major head aches.

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

ayanabashu said:

starkindler said:

I can agree with the "aggressive" appearance of muscle memory.
another time my dad tried to wake me for school and shook me. I woke up, grabbed his arm, twisted and threw him into the closet door (which cracked). From then on he just came to the foot of my bed and shook the whole bed to wake me.

It has been Loooong for me as well. Close to 18 years since I was in training, but I still am not one to startle or surprize...I am hoping to get back into the "swing" of things when I get my duelling saber....and enough room to swing it.

I still react that way even after 20+ years out of the navy. All my friends and family know to yell through the closed bedroom door or from outside my tent if we're camping. It's a learned response from having several wackos in the same compartment on the ship.