Star Wars--- A Christian Movie???

[himiko sabbrawrra]

Which is true.. We all all have a point of view

[jedi12]

yES WE DO I THINK STAR WARS HAS A LOT OF CHRISTIAN THEMES IN IT,BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THE TWO SEPERATE

[Leda EmBorr]

Basically, Star Wars has found the common thread that runs through all religions and the story is built around it, borrowing bits of mythology from different ones. That's why it can be molded to fit ones own philosophy. It can be seen from many points of view, and still make sense.

[tanzanlinnear]

I don't think there is really anything Christian about Star Wars at all, unless you want to talk about Anakin's 'virgin birth', however, no one worshipped Anakin or really 'followed his way of life', so even that isn't enough to say it's a dominant theme. The closest analogy to the Force, is chi, the natural energy that flows through everything, and makes up the ley lines that cover the planet. When those lay lines converge, the energy is often focussed enough for non-sensitives to feel it, and the original churches and monestaries where built over those convergences, which is why some people walk into a church and 'feel the touch of God', they are simply picking up on the ambient energy in the area. This is also the distinction between 'consecrated earth' and 'holy ground'. Anywhere can be consecrated, but only convergence points become known as 'holy ground'. The general philiosophy of the Jedi is more like that of the Buddhist monks, who lived a life of peace and tranquility, but could break out some serious kung-fu when needed. It is certainly nothing like that of Christians, some of whom condemn anyone who is 'different' to them, and try and force their opinions on others, that is not the Jedi way at all...
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[Cara Drume]

Ahem...I'm glad you said 'some' and not 'all'...

[tanzanlinnear]

theundercoverjedi said:

Ahem...I'm glad you said 'some' and not 'all'...

I'd certainly never say that all Christians were *long string of expletives* just as I'd never be ignorant enough to say that all Muslims were fanatical terrorists, despite the fact that the most ignorant and closed-minded people I've ever encountered, have been either very devout, or born again Christians. However, I put that down to failings in them as individuals, and do not judge the rest of the group by the shortcomings of a few.

[J'st-Peat]

Its pretty rare that I post these days. As far as Star Wars being a christian movie, I dont think so. However I think you can say its a christian themed movie. With the take that its what if Jesus ie Anakin hadn't sided with God. Rather he gives into temptation, and gives into the darkside.

As far as the OT, I think its more Eastern than western in its religous attributes.

[Leda EmBorr]

tanzanlinnear said:

I don't think there is really anything Christian about Star Wars at all, unless you want to talk about Anakin's 'virgin birth', however, no one worshipped Anakin or really 'followed his way of life', so even that isn't enough to say it's a dominant theme. The closest analogy to the Force, is chi, the natural energy that flows through everything, and makes up the ley lines that cover the planet. When those lay lines converge, the energy is often focussed enough for non-sensitives to feel it, and the original churches and monestaries where built over those convergences, which is why some people walk into a church and 'feel the touch of God', they are simply picking up on the ambient energy in the area. This is also the distinction between 'consecrated earth' and 'holy ground'. Anywhere can be consecrated, but only convergence points become known as 'holy ground'. The general philiosophy of the Jedi is more like that of the Buddhist monks, who lived a life of peace and tranquility, but could break out some serious kung-fu when needed. It is certainly nothing like that of Christians, some of whom condemn anyone who is 'different' to them, and try and force their opinions on others, that is not the Jedi way at all...
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Again... this is your opinion... others may feel differently and we need to allow them to make their own philosophical connections with Star Wars without having to argue their point.

And to condemn someone for being different is not a Christian thing either... it's what happens when some religious people become hypocritical... and it happens within many religions. Extremists are everywhere.

[tanzanlinnear]

ledaemborr said:

Again... this is your opinion... others may feel differently and we need to allow them to make their own philosophical connections with Star Wars without having to argue their point.

So noted...

ledaemborr said:

And to condemn someone for being different is not a Christian thing either... it's what happens when some religious people become hypocritical... and it happens within many religions. Extremists are everywhere.

One of the reasons I am not particularly fond of any organized religion. One of the things that appeals to me so much about Buddhism, is that it is more a way of life, than a religion, as it is about personal enlightenment, not attempting to appease any god or higher power.

[Leda EmBorr]

tanzanlinnear said:

ledaemborr said:

And to condemn someone for being different is not a Christian thing either... it's what happens when some religious people become hypocritical... and it happens within many religions. Extremists are everywhere.

One of the reasons I am not particularly fond of any organized religion. One of the things that appeals to me so much about Buddhism, is that it is more a way of life, than a religion, as it is about personal enlightenment, not attempting to appease any god or higher power.

Ditto! I wholeheartedly agree. Enlightenment to me is to honor the "God" within ourselves and that which is in others. I don't know if this is Buddism or not, but it's something I try to live by.

We're all the same... just, the same...

[Mon-Jas Charan]

As I see it all religions come from God ... Each one has what the individual need to find their path ... non is wrong and not each one is right for everyone. The is what is so great about the USA, each to worship as they please. In other words I'll worship my Gods, and you can worship yours. Now of we can get the ACLU and other groups to understand that.

[himiko sabbrawrra]

One of the toughest subjects to battle about this is

[tanzanlinnear]

ledaemborr said:

Ditto! I wholeheartedly agree. Enlightenment to me is to honor the "God" within ourselves and that which is in others. I don't know if this is Buddism or not, but it's something I try to live by.

We're all the same... just, the same...

From what I've gathered, Buddhism isn't so much even about a 'god within ourselves', it really doesn't seem to focus on any 'higher power', other than a person's own enlightenment and development, which is why I class it more a 'lifestyle' than a religion When the last census was done in the UK, I put my religion as Jedi. Apparently there are more Jedi than Jews in the UK ;D

[Cara Drume]

Oh, dear. I'm afraid I might have put my foot into a hornet's nest!
I'm sorry about my grumbling. I was kind of in a bad mood that day, but shouldn't have taken it out on you.

[Jauhzmynn Enz]

tanzanlinnear said:

theundercoverjedi said:

Ahem...I'm glad you said 'some' and not 'all'...

I'd certainly never say that all Christians were *long string of expletives* just as I'd never be ignorant enough to say that all Muslims were fanatical terrorists, despite the fact that the most ignorant and closed-minded people I've ever encountered, have been either very devout, or born again Christians. However, I put that down to failings in them as individuals, and do not judge the rest of the group by the shortcomings of a few.

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Very true, there's always some bozo who makes the rest of us look BAD because they don't use their head. :-(

That's why it's extremely important that wisdom and love be in the mix, it's great to be passionate but NOT great to be UNFOCUSED with it. So if a person is either BEING ignorant or acting such, they'er probably not applying the knowledge they were suppossed to have sought and defiantly not using some wisdom.

For the record, I'm a hard core born again christian. (Booyah);-) But I'm positive you guys see I act a wee bit differantly then the 'fire from the hip without looking' variety. I've Great passion but it's tempered with wisdom, knowledge, understanding and most importantly love

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I'm not an HP fan, but I refuse to condem those who DO like Harry Potter. (I did read a few of the books and see the movies just tos ee what the hubbub was about.Ya know playing Quidditch takes some serious athletisim and cordination. Looks fun. ) My night blindness and lacl of 3d depth perception makes viewing scenes with dark lighting really difficult. The Harrison Ford movie from the 80's I consistantly sleep through.(Can't see it I sleep.<snicker>)