Is Chivalry Dead?

[Xorren Hedrasii]

The title says it all. The whole reason for this is a recent conversation that I've had, and others in the past. Some people think that Chivalry is dead. I don't think Chivalry is dead. I've went round and round with people on this one. It's been in the shadows for a while, but NEVER dead. Albeit it is a bid modified from what it used to be. I still can't believe that some people think that it is. Call me old fashioned. If I've offended someone on this I didn't mean to, it's just my (very strong) oppinion.

[KaiRhann]

For my own part, I have to say that chivalry is not dead. Rare, yes. But not dead.

In the current state of the world, it's easy to believe that such "old fashioned values" are a thing of the past, with the way people treat one another in real life and espescially on the internet where many cast aside any semblance of civility, let alone chivalry. Despite this, some people indeed uphold such values and keep chivalry alive...

~Kai Rhann Jerra

[jedi12]

no it isn't dead it lives

[himiko sabbrawrra]

I use to have a guy before I met my husbad who would open doors for me,bow slightly and take my hand kissing it lightly saying "M'lady".. It was really sweet and he was kind. Though waaaaay to old for me. But it was nice to know that that type of stf lives on.

[Xorren Hedrasii]

The "M'lady" thing does seem to get a smile from most every gril. I say that to almost all of my friends who are girls on a rare occasion and when they seem to be down in the dumps.

[Cara Drume]

I met a guy myself who kissed my hand and always asked permission before he did. My best friend is practically engaged to a fellow who holds the door for her, pulls out her chair for her, and is always extremely polite.
No, chivalry is not dead. I find it rare; more so in some circles than in others...but it is not dead.

[Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar]

When we were dating Nerf was very chivalrous. ALways opening the car door ffor me, etc. Now its not as common since we're an old married couple, but he still surprises me at times by carrying my books out of the library, etc.

[Leda EmBorr]

Chivalry, to me, is not so much words as it is actions. Opening doors for a woman is one. Refraining from gutter talk in front of a woman is another. In general, a guy who acts attentive and polite, speaks or acts in a woman's defense, and is protective, all without going overboard, of course, is chivalrous.

Is it dead? No way. It is less common, though. So when you see it, it really stands out.

[Starkindler (The Naked Jedi)]

I'm an old fashioned guy myself.
used to be labeled "Chauvinist", but mostly by Feminist types who didn't know me well.

Showing respect and honor to women as both the fairer and "weaker" sex seems right to me.
By "weaker" I mean in the Biblical sense where the word refers to the difference between fine china and everyday earthenware. Both do the job just as well but one, by its nature and value, deserves special handling and care. Not to demean the china, but to honor and protect it.

Men and Women ARE different ON PURPOSE......things work out much better when they are allowed to be.

[himiko sabbrawrra]

albatross said:

The "M'lady" thing does seem to get a smile from most every gril. I say that to almost all of my friends who are girls on a rare occasion and when they seem to be down in the dumps.

I wish my husband would do some things like that for me. The only time he seems to care right now is if I am hurt or something. Im pretty much on my own for that. So when I see it happen or someone I don't even know holds a door open at a supermarket being poliet makes me feel better.

[Tobbok Nassias]

CHIVALRY: "Roomers of my demise have been greatly exaggerated."

[tanzanlinnear]

I'd say chivalry died with equality of the sexes. I've known feminists who get really angry if a guy acts in a chivalrous way towards them (ie opening doors, taking their coats etc etc) on the argument that the guy wouldn't act the same way towards another guy, so they are treating them differently because they are a woman, which is a fair enough point of view. Personally, I treat everyone equally. If I go through a door, I'll hold it so it doesn't slam in someone's face, but I won't go out of my way to open it for someone (unless I'm actually closest to the door) If I do something for someone, I expect to be thanked for it (not because I do it for reward, but common courtesy should make them thank me) and if someone doesn't say 'thankyou' if I hold a door or let someone pass on the sidewalk, then I yell "Thankyou!" at their retreating back. Noone's ever pulled me on it, and I've seen some good cringe reactions, which makes it all worthwhile

[Ani-Chay Pinn]

Chivalry isn't dead....but it's been incomplete.

Since when are only MEN obliged to be nice and fair to other people??? A woman's real respect for her male partner/lover/husband is just as chivalrous as a man's respect for a woman. And WHY is it limited to of the opposite gender??? A homosexual person can be just as chivalrous to his or her own partner as any lord to his lady.

Opening doors? That's just window-dressing. The first person getting to the door and holding it open for the people coming in next is chivalrous. Gender doesn't matter.

Chivalry isn't ALIVE until everyone recognizes their part in it.

[Xorren Hedrasii]

Ani: You have a very good point. So chivalry is undead. (Great now we have vampiric ideals )

[Andle Di-Ranos]

Chivalry is not dead, just most people in our world don't use it much. I use it every day, like at school girls i don't even know i will hold the door open to the stairs and let them go first. Some of the older ladies at my church i help them up the steps and hold the door for them. I think many people today feel as though it makes them look weak, but to me it makes me feel good...