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Post by Nova Darklighter on Nov 27, 2003 19:36:51 GMT -5
It's essentially a cape, but I'll take a closer look at it & let you know which pattern will work for it best, in my opinion that is.
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Post by zhidon on Apr 20, 2004 17:51:16 GMT -5
correct...it is a cap with arm holes cut in it...thats what makes it look like a robe. i held a trivia contest once and this was the question. 'what color is anakin's robe?' answer...he doesnt wear a robe.
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 20, 2004 18:09:12 GMT -5
Actually thats wrong... Anakin wears a cape, yes, but theres no holes, instead it has tabard like flaps that also act as the roll around the hood.  |
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 20, 2004 19:18:23 GMT -5
That's a NICE shot of the costume.
Nice idea for a cloak as well. I found aLOT of suead,, I might make a cloak in the ankian STYLE from it. No need to have sleeves.:-D
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 20, 2004 21:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Apr 21, 2004 0:17:30 GMT -5
Essentially any cape pattern will work, but where the arm slits are, just continue the opening to the hem. A hint, most men'scapes do not have arm slits, but they are very common in womens patterns, especially quasi-victorian ones, those aren't tabbards, they are the front of the cape. I think on Vader, there is a version where those sections are belted to his body, or maybe that was some archival stuff in the art book at Rubies. I'm to tired to remember right now.
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 21, 2004 3:37:13 GMT -5
Actually no, they are tabards.
They attach right to the visible side seam but also go around theneck for the hood.
These are seperate pieces.
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Apr 21, 2004 23:11:01 GMT -5
The pictures do not support the separate piece, and if they are attached as you say at the side seams, they are not separate, but, there may be an extra shawl there that goes under the hood, to me it does not appear to be the case, and I don't remember seeing one at the Art of SW show. In any case, the patterns that will work best, are still Ladies cape patterns with arm slits, modifications will be easiest with that style, and wearing a tabbard or not would be a matter of personal preference. However, Anakin plainly has a set of tabbards on his tunic, so I'd think a 2nd pair on the cape would be redundent.
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 22, 2004 3:26:19 GMT -5
Heh anakin has cloth tabards and then leather ones....Its not redundant, its costume design. Picture this, the cape is 4 peices. The "tabard" peices connect near the neck. You can clearly see that they overlap the "front" parts of the cape part. The Hood covers the attachments. Which you can see slightly here: www.petridish.net/pics/12352/Swing.jpgThis pic you can see the seam on the "tabard" bit. In fact its sewn much like a tabard, folded and stiched and then flipped inside out. www.petridish.net/pics/12352/C2Bottom.jpgFinally look here where the "tabard" angles toward teh seam. www.petridish.net/pics/12352/C2Back.jpg |
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 22, 2004 4:27:10 GMT -5
The colors of this costume are nice. I'd been eyeballing the design since Attack of the Clones came out. I'm gonna take a crack at this one but make a few modificaitions to accomidaite a female form. ;-) A SHORT female. The tunics materials I know where to get 'em and can make 'em, just a matter of getting the right colors, or nabbing dyes. I'm hung up on the leather tabbords though. I need the aid of a few good eyeballs of seamstresses and tailors. It took me a bit to find shots of them. I did see a shot where I'd seen a pebbly like texture on them. That's why I thought of pig skin. (Saw some in a leather warehouse that matched exactly in texture and color.) I didn't get it. I needed 1x2 metres of the stuff, but no money at the time  Check out the very edge seam near the chest. This looks like two peices of leather sewen with the soft sides together, with the leather 'outside'. From the look of the side hem, the leather would be pretty suple and soft to fold flat like that. (Or they'd treated it with something.) Does that look like that to you guys? Or am I seeing all goofy? Pic angles, and lighting can really change perpsective. Maybe someone with better eyes can see if those leather tabbords are two layers of very THIN leather. If I'm right, cool. If I'm wrong, cool.just wanna know so I know how much leather to get. Wish I had their sewing machine, I'm tired of breaking needles.:-) <Counts needles> I broke uhh 5 so far. :-) Yeah five. Ow. <shakes hand> I need a bandaid :-) Any help checking these out is a huge plus. |
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 22, 2004 12:03:48 GMT -5
The tabards are just that, 2 layers, but a little bit more. 5 peices total. You have the part of the tabards that hang below the belt that are straight and made by stitching along the edges and pulled inside out, thats the general look anyway. then theres a waist seam and a shoulder seam. However the shoulder seam is JUST on the top part of the tabard, underneath the leather is one peice from shoulder to shoulder. As for pebbly texture, I myself am not sure on that...I do think that Hayden wore different tabards depending on the scene. Rein One makes these, and thats where I got mine, I just haven't gotten proper pictures yet  These ones are one sided, mine are 2 sided, just like the movie.   |
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 22, 2004 12:24:05 GMT -5
Nice picture, that'll work for a pattern for me easily.
Actually 'shoulder to shoulder' is across the back.
You mean from the front at the waist going OVER the shoulder to the back.(Leather 'lining' is one long solid peice underneath whereas the top part is in two peices.)
One bit of tailoring and reaverse engineering with these costumes huh?
How Paul designed them is interesting, it keeps them from moving about below I bet.
You'er probably right with Hayden wearing differant types of tabbords. Pebbly ones for close up, and plians for distance shots.
Well, with the onto and pic pattern in mind, I'm off to the Leather factory to nab some pigskin leather and more needles, maybe some thimbles for me poor fingers.
:-)
Speaking of Reinone/Paul, I haven't been able to find 'em in ages. If I cna find 'em, I want to order another set of pouches. Had he changed his e-mail?
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Post by zhidon on Apr 22, 2004 15:47:59 GMT -5
'Yes, find him we must. His pouches we need. Yes....er....ah...If anyone has had contact will Paul lately let both me and Mynn know. Hey Mynn, i still am looking for a lighter weight robe. Help me Obi-wan Kenobi...er help me anybody. I dont wanna burn it this summer.
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Apr 22, 2004 16:05:41 GMT -5
Zhi, Ben's e-mail addy is being bounced back at me. I'll be forced to actually phone the guy.  Maybe go for a sleevelss version of the over robe Zhi, or go robeless. all together. Ahh you can go to thsi site for a robe. www.carrollcostumes.com/index.htm THis guy can make a cannon robe for you, even sleevless if you wish. You can have it made from his material stock, or grab the material you want, send it to him, and he can take off some of the cost. He's no ttaking orders until July. |
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Post by Primrodo on Apr 22, 2004 17:09:22 GMT -5
Hes around, same email and everything. His wife is almost due...and is having a rough pregnancy, hense not being online much And yes Jauhzmynn, one solid peice under and two over |
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