Post by Orion Knight-Star on May 29, 2007 2:20:34 GMT -5
At the conclusion of the battle of the heroes we know the result; however, if Obi-Wan after cutting off Anakin/Vader's limbs and saying those words that I will not say because it is too depressing. We know that he gets consumed by fire but the question is. Do you think if obi-wan helped anakin/vader would anakin releaized that obi-wan cared and loved him as a brother. Would this bring Anakin back to the lightside of the force?
In the novel, Obi-Wan actually says to Anakin, "no, I will not help you," after Anakin pleads for help. Then he spits his venemous "I HATE YOU!" You can catch it in the movie when Anakin is struggling up the hill, his mouth moves "Obi-Wan...help me." They edited it out with his moans instead probably b/c it made Obi-Wan look heartless for not wanting to help him but rather leave him for dead.
Post by Seda Navilli on Oct 12, 2007 8:35:01 GMT -5
As Anakin is writhing on that black shore, it easy to forget exactly what brought him there. He had murdered children and friends, strangled his wife almost to death and had tried to kill his best friend and his father figure since childhood. He had dug himself into a pit of despair and hatred; considering this, the act of Obi Wan pulling his body out of the fire would seem to be a pretty futile effort towards bringing him back from the hole he had fallen in within himself.
His hatred may even have been exacerbated by his life being saved by someone who he felt he was far superior to. We all know how Anakin is when it comes to pride.
No, I think its fair to say that at that stage there was nothing that could have been done to redeem Anakin. The act of leaving him there, although as cruel as it may have seemed, was the only chance for Anakin to be saved.
Post by Granny-Wan on Jan 10, 2008 12:47:44 GMT -5
I seem to remember in the novel, and I can't look it up because it's packed away , that Obi-Wan thought Anakin was dying, and that he ought to go back and kill him out of mercy, but that he wasn't feeling particularly merciful at the time.
So Obi-Wan was probably aware that Anakin was too far gone to the darkside to save, even if he could have saved his life.
It also said that Obi-Wan was still a Jedi and couldn't kill a helpless man, so he left it to the will of the Force....
Seems to me it would have been more Jedi-like to end his suffering by killing him, and also it would have destroyed the evil...
Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Aug 19, 2008 12:50:57 GMT -5
Yep, the whole sotry is about redemption and noone is too far gone to be redeamed, they just have to accept it.
IF Obi-Wan saved his padawan's life, Anikan may have turned back. If he didn't Obi Wan's action of saving him would've given the young man something to think about for the rest of his life. He'd be very angry being so young and not fully developed mentally evidenced by rash actions without thinking carefully. Give him about ten years and he MIGHT wise up. He'd feel guilty, then mad at himself.
Obi-Wan made a statement before the fight. "Anikan, you'er lost. I can't help you if you don't let me."
That's the key.
Watch your thoughts; they become words. words become actions, actions become habits, habits, become character. Your character becomes your destiny. What will your destiny be?