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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on May 21, 2005 5:11:11 GMT -5
Why did they give Leia to Bail! He's a seantor in the public eye. All of a sudden he comes up with a baby? And hmmm... some other senator certainly looked pregnant and now she disappeared... could Bail have been carrying on with Padme and he killed her to cover it up but yet keep the baby? I can see some major trash tabloid wars in the Galactic Empire
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 21, 2005 6:52:00 GMT -5
I think it was a matter of trust--they knew they could trust Bail Organa. And time--they didn't have any for looking for a good home for the baby. And while Senator Organa was a public figure, he also has resources with which to disguise the baby's origins or come up with a convincing cover story on short notice.
It's a little more conspicuous that Luke ended up on Tatooine. The only reasons I can think of that would make that place a sensible choice are:
-- Anakin/Darth Vader HATES Tatooine and would find every reason NOT to go there, until he chases Leia there twenty years later.
-- Skywalker is like "Smith" on Tatooine, so the Lars family adopting a baby with that name wouldn't stand out.
I guess it was announced that Padme's baby died with her; she did have a rather public funeral and I assume it was at least rumored that she was pregnant. There was so much chaos going on with the purge of the temple, etc., that her death could have been credited to the conflict. Other senators (ones that Palpatine didn't like) could have been conveniently eliminated at the same time as well.
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on May 21, 2005 7:28:01 GMT -5
Not to mention that Padme was made to look like she was still pregnant for her burial...
And Bail had said that he and his wife had considered adopting a baby girl.
Nothing would really say who's baby was adopted.
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Post by Qual Totem on May 21, 2005 11:51:53 GMT -5
Any more questions raised those seemed to be fully answered how about what happens to anakins limbs after they are caught off. Perhaps they were incenerated or eaten by the emperor ;D jk jk lol
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Post by Aayla on May 22, 2005 11:10:59 GMT -5
sorry to be random but if a non force sensitive person was to drink the blood of a jedi would he/she become force sensitive, or if someone found 1 of anakins leg and started to chew on it would they like get force sensitive lol
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Post by Leda EmBorr on May 22, 2005 21:45:41 GMT -5
Um... yeah that's pretty random...  Actually there is a book in the Jedi Apprentice series that touches upon that to a certain extent... not in the "vampiritic" way you are speaking of, but it was about an evil scientist who studied blood to learn about the Force. It was called "the Evil Experiment". Back on topic... Bail and his wife could have had a baby... and Tatooine was small and out of the way... and as Shmi said, "the republic doesn't exsist out here..." |
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Post by kivaanzion on May 23, 2005 0:36:09 GMT -5
Really I don't think it was the brightest idea for Obi-Wan to hide Luke not only on Anakin's homeworld, but at his stepbrother's farm.
I guess the only saving grace is Anakin believed Padme died before giving birth. Anakin would have no reason to return to Tatooine for an unexpected visit, and Obi-Wan stayed just in case he did.
Lucas covered this in the reworked ESB dvd. When the Emperor contacts Vader and says "I have no doubt (the rebel who destroyed the Death Star) is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker". Vader responds "How can this be?". Meaning he had no knowledge of Luke's birth.
Skywalker is like Smith on Tatooine? How so? The only two Skywalkers I'm aware of weren't born there, they were brought there as slaves.
It sure puts Owen and Beru's deaths in a whole new light- The sandtrooper commander reports he has reached the Lars homestead and requests instructions. Vader's response: "Wipe them out... both of them."
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 23, 2005 15:08:23 GMT -5
We don't really meet many people on Tatooine, but Skywalker could just be a common name in that part of the galaxy whether they're slave or free. Anakin was born into it, but no background is given about how Shmi became a slave.
And Anakin/Vader HATES Tatooine. He'd never go there unless he had to, like he did in ANH. So, it's not that bad a place to send Luke, basically hiding in plain sight. The biggest danger I think would have been after the Death Star was build; Vader might have wanted to blow it up just out of spite. I wonder if by the time ANH has rolled around the Empire hasn't taken over Tatooine? The Repulic may not have existed out there, but the Empire might have moved in. Conquest is something that Empires do and Tatooine would not have put up much of a fight.
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Post by Rünya I’shiego on May 23, 2005 20:27:00 GMT -5
No, Tatooine wouldn't have put up much of a fight, but then, what's on Tatooine that anyone would want to rule? Except the Hutts, obviously.
Maybe by the time the Empire was ready to take over Rim worlds the Rebel Alliance had sprung up strong enough to take up the Emperor’s attention. Plus he had his little Death Star project going on to occupy him too . . .
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Post by kivaanzion on May 24, 2005 8:31:31 GMT -5
I believe Tatooine is too remote for the Empire to have any real interest. The Empire probably doesn't bother with it as they leave it for Jabba and the Hutt mafia to rule. The sandtroopers we see there appear to only be searching for the droids.
Good point about Vader wanting to blow up Tatooine!
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on May 24, 2005 18:24:33 GMT -5
Another question that I just don't get:
What did Obi mean by saying he had the high ground? Yes he was on solid ground while Ani was floating on the lava still, but I miss the significance and why Ani felt he had to get up there too. He jumps and Obi cuts off his legs. Not a smart move.
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Post by Seda Navilli on May 24, 2005 18:35:38 GMT -5
At this point, Anakin and Obi Wan are pretty much equal swordsmen, but in that instance Obi held a higher position physically, i.e. "the high ground". Try sword fighting someone who is at a higher position than you; not only can they leap over any attack you use, but they can strike forcefully directly onto your head and upper body.
Anakin could not have out manouvered him from his position, but figured that he was so strong in the dark side that he would be able to parry any of Obi's attacks whilst flipping over him. If he had pulled it off, he would have had the high ground and most likely beaten Obi Wan. But alas, arrogance is a major flaw in the dark side, and instead of running away, Anakin tried his daring move... and failed. When there are two equals fighting, it is environmental factors that decide the victor.
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Post by Seda Navilli on May 24, 2005 18:40:18 GMT -5
What I wouldnt mind knowing is how they managed to get Padme's body home for the burial... If senator Organa returned the body, then came up with a baby that would attract way too much attention, they simply wouldnt risk it. So did they just do a fly by and drop her body out or what?
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on May 24, 2005 18:40:21 GMT -5
Ah. I knew I was missing something. Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense now. I thught it may be something like that but couldn;t quite figure it out.
I think that is the real reason Yoda called on Obi to fight Anakin. Obi knew every move Ani makes... hence the simultaneous Force Push
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on May 24, 2005 19:16:02 GMT -5
I assume that Bail must have brought Padme's body home. He's still in the senate and he could have used the chaos on Courosant to cover up anything about Padme's death.
I think in the DVD preview for Ep III about Obi-Wan and Anakin's fight I think it's said that Anakin is a more powerful fighter but Obi-Wan is more experienced. That's why Obi-Wan warned Anakin that he had the high ground. Anakin's greater strength couldn't make up for his strategic disadvantage.
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