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Post by I Five on Nov 17, 2006 10:16:54 GMT -5
Sweet...now we've converted you to reading with us ;D!!
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Nov 22, 2006 0:08:46 GMT -5
Getting my way through it, It has soem great techniques for Jedi excercises but I find myself often wish ing he wasn't a pilot, it all seems to come back to pilot talk and such and while a book like Jedi Apprentice are great for purly Jedi thinking this one so far isn;'t bad, but the pace I'm wishing wa s alittle faster but I'm not done it yet so have to see.
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Post by Larwi B'nu on Nov 28, 2006 1:34:36 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Ky-Wan; he does seem to slip back to the pilot jargon a lot...I mean, a lot! But I have to give the author credit; not very many writers can slip into that mode, where they're writing from the perspective of a very technical occupation and have to use that language and make the reader believe that this character they're writing truly is what he or she proclaims to be, in this case, a pilot.
I loved this book! I look @ as having 3 distinct phases...first, pilot, the Corran Horn from the X-Wing series that I've heard so much about, and who's now going thru the rigors of Jedi Academy training...second, CorSec officer, the Corran Horn from long ago and far away who must now use his wits in a very technical and straightforward manner, first to smuggle his way onto Corellia and visit his grandfather, and, then, later, to smuggle himself into the nefarious pirate organization...third, the Jedi Knight, who is painted in a way that make him sound very much like Batman, which is a good thing, really....
I think it's great to see a Jedi who doesn't possess telekinesis; you have the opportunity to watch the Jedi utilize their powers in different and creative ways b/c they can't always rely on the TK. Definitely highly recommended reading!
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Dec 5, 2006 0:11:40 GMT -5
yeah I'm on like chapter 27 now and I wa s alittle dispaointed that we've gone back to the pilot stuff full time again............ya know don't wanan read a Jedi book for a focus on piloting. But I like that this story spans months and takes it's time letting you knwo what's going on, though the Exar Kun thing was dashed pretty fast.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Dec 5, 2006 23:50:51 GMT -5
Hmmmm, so this is what you're talking about on this thread. I wasn't that interested in the pilot stuff. It's important to Horn's characters, but I prefer him when he's in 'cop' mode. I just read it for the Jedi bits. ;D
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Dec 6, 2006 21:52:16 GMT -5
There are so many facets to I'Jedi that's it's actually hard to pick my favorite parts. I like Corran a lot, that's kind of why I took his 1st name as my Jedi last name minus 1 r. I really like the parts about the Jedi Academy. Let's face it Luke is starting from scratch, so to speak, please tell me who gets things right the 1st time through when you have nobody alive you can go to for help. Luke does make many mistakes, but so do all the students to. Corran's corsec was coming out a bit strong also Corran couldn't make up his mind whether he was corsec, pilot or Jedi---at least not till he built his own lightsaber from scratch. It seems in this story to Mara has fondness for Luke that starts to show up.
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Post by Jedimom/Cor-Al Gelkar on Dec 7, 2006 5:14:35 GMT -5
We must remember too that at this point the Jedi Order is basically a totally new entity. It is just starting out and a lot fo the old traditions have been lost or cast aside. There is not a lot of structure for Corran to go from, so he often harkens back to his CorSec training where he has learned discipline, slueth skills, etc.
I like Corran's character as a whole. He is not a niave whiny apprentice but a grown man with lots of life experience. Watching him transform hs life shows that it is never too late to change, but it does take discipline.
I like the book, but as noted here, I was hoping to get past alot of the pilot stuff -- that's what the X-Wing books are for. Of course there is bound to be some (it IS COrran) but there was almost too much focus on piloting.
I do NOT really cinsider this the Jedi Handbook, however. As I said the Order is too new at thi spoint to have a real structure to it. There are lots of good points made here in the pages though
And I love the persona of Jenos Idinian!
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Dec 7, 2006 13:10:59 GMT -5
I ususally skip the pilot stuff that's there, even though it's not bad, it's part of Corran's history.
There are some funny things in I' Jedi that I laughed over:
When Mirax wakes up, after Corran kisses her, & comments "Hi, yourself. You're pretty cute. Of course, if my husand finds out you kissed me like that, you'll be in big trouble." Luke burst out laughing. "Her, I like."
Another part in the beginning when Han tells Corran that: He,(Han) has finally" met someone who has in-laws as intersting as mine"(Han talking)(thinking of Booster--(who is not fond of Corran) but will do his utmost to help Corran get Mirax back.
Sad/hopeful The basic story of I' Jedi is the story of man, who loves his wife, loses his wife & realizes how much he really misses her & attempting to do his best to find his wife so that they can begin a family---so family is very strong in this book. As Corran's wingman/findman Ooryl explains very well to Corran. Also the fact that starting his(Corran) family will continue the Jedi Line in his family.
Elegos reveals the memory: I know when Corran saw the memory of his grandfather's death--everytime I read this part I feel the power in how it's presented. I'm rather glad it's a story--I wouldn't want to feel all of that myself.
Jedi strength: The new Jedi apprentices find they are strongest working together & can defeat a Sith because the light is stronger then the dark
Corran blends all his personalities(pilot, corsec & Jedi) together when he builds his 1st lightsaber by himself. He accepts himself for who & what he is.
Something new: Learning some Jedi basics Learning about another branch of force users Jensaarai.
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Post by J'aii-Gun Jiinn on Dec 7, 2006 20:58:38 GMT -5
Hmm I've seemed to missed this book I don't remember reading it i'll have to check it out sometime I'm reading bloodlines right now .
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Dec 8, 2006 2:24:21 GMT -5
It's a good read. If you have not read the trilogy Jedi Academy, that is also a good read. Where as I' Jedi does a portion of the book on the Jedi Academy, you'll find that in the trilogy there's a bit more detail done in a different way but yet there are similarities to. This follows through with the Star Wars Universe as a whole. Once a character is presented they aren't really changed much they have to deal with what is happening around them.
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Post by J'aii-Gun Jiinn on Dec 9, 2006 0:04:36 GMT -5
;)I've the Academy series and liked I alot.I'll definately have to check this out.THANKS!
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Post by I Five on Dec 16, 2006 19:14:16 GMT -5
I finished three books on the week on the liveaboard. I Jedi was one of them. It was awesome! I don't know if I consider it the Jedi Handbook...perhaps the Headstrong Jedi handbook I really liked the parts where he joined the invids and how he and Luke rescued Mirax. Corran is just cool. I liked how he went thru the phases of his life...CorSec, Jedi and then combined them...to make one kick butt Jedi!
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Dec 22, 2006 3:51:34 GMT -5
I agree, the Jedi Handbook is something maybe better suited for the Jedi Apprentice/Quest/Last of the Jedi series'.
I enjoyed the book but it just didn't take with me as others have, It wasn't as bad as say Jedi Trial but it wa s an enjoyable read. I liked the bits on the Academy and the Sith but post Empire books always seem to make Jedi more godlike and that is why I stick to pre Empire Jedi.
I like that the story was spread ou tmonths but it seemed to just slowdown only to speed up to a point, like the rescue at the end, slow slow slow, big break clue or such and then boom .
The Mara bits were nice as was seing Luke in action. I think that the author really admitted that Corran/Kerian is not a Jedi, Cop or Pilot he's all of them and that's what I think most liked about the book was that he is all not just one faucet. For me however as cool as it was I still perfer reading tales of pre Empire Jedi. But still a nice read on a Jedi perspective from a man who had to learn harder then Luke did
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Post by lazlototh on Jan 17, 2007 18:01:01 GMT -5
Scary thing is I read this book when it came out years ago. I'd have to honestly reread it to be of any worth on this thread. I did enjoy it as the other Stackpole novels. I've found myself enjoying books written by people with history in the gaming industry. Miks Stackpole also wrote a lot of Battletech novels too and was involved in the gaming industry in the 80s and 90s. Aaron Allston is too (he worked for TSR making Dungeons and Dragons adventures).
I, Jedi stuck out to me in that like mentioned before, we're dealing with NEW Jedi, new traditions (old ones being unknown or forgotten in expediency), with existing talents being added to bring self-sufficiency to the order. Corran's growth throughout the book was noticeable, with him finally realizing that he didn't have to pigeon-hole himself as a particular person. There was a lot of pilot talk - I seem to recall, but that's just how he talks. I still talk US Army Infantry jargon 15 years after I got out. It CAN stick to a character...
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Jan 19, 2007 3:35:49 GMT -5
Copy That
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