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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 19, 2005 11:52:05 GMT -5
At last, I'm able to post pictures of my completed costume, which has just been submitted for Council approval... They were taken by my future Father-in-Law, while on a family vacation to Portmeirion, North Wales (the location for the Patrick McGoohan series The Prisoner). Comments, suggestions and questions are always welcome    
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Post by Olos Nay on Oct 19, 2005 17:12:23 GMT -5
is that a Karate gi?
It looks great, but seams more "dark jedi" then normal jedi, at least to my eyes.
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Post by JediKai on Oct 20, 2005 0:16:28 GMT -5
The robe especially looks good. It's the Ep II anakin style, eh?
Though my monitor has been tuned by photoshop, the tunic looks redish, but that could be a trick of the camera. My local group has a Jedi with a brownish tunic that no matter who takes the photo, it still looks red!
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Post by Seda Navilli on Oct 20, 2005 0:44:23 GMT -5
Lookin great Tanzan  Love that lightsaber
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Post by Jedi Magus on Oct 20, 2005 1:43:01 GMT -5
"You are number 6"  I do really like the robe as well. Did you re-dye/darken that "tunic"? I rememeber from the other post, just wondering. I know the red problems alot have with pics, Probably my comp too. Something about the Tabards, but not sure, Ill wait for The expert Primrodo's opinion  Nice Job.
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Post by Cara Drume on Oct 20, 2005 9:30:53 GMT -5
Not bad, Tanzaan. That's pretty darn good!
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 20, 2005 10:47:52 GMT -5
is that a Karate gi? It looks great, but seams more "dark jedi" then normal jedi, at least to my eyes. It is, I have to admit, I'm surprized the Council have allowed it, but if they're happy with it , then I'm not going to argue The robe especially looks good. It's the Ep II anakin style, eh? Though my monitor has been tuned by photoshop, the tunic looks redish, but that could be a trick of the camera. My local group has a Jedi with a brownish tunic that no matter who takes the photo, it still looks red! Thanks, it is indeed, I had it made by Mystik Merchant  I know what you mean about the tunic color, I think it must be something to do with the differences between how our eyes and cameras recognize color. Lookin great Tanzan  Love that lightsaber Thanks, Seda ;D I can't foresee myself making another, unless this one is somehow lost or destroyed. "You are number 6"  I do really like the robe as well. Did you re-dye/darken that "tunic"? I rememeber from the other post, just wondering. I know the red problems alot have with pics, Probably my comp too. Something about the Tabards, but not sure, Ill wait for The expert Primrodo's opinion  Nice Job. Hee hee, that's actually the clue to the identity of Number One, that I never realized until a female Number 2 said it... "Who is Number One?!" "You are, Number Six..." Thanks, the cloak is definitely one of my favorite pieces of the costume, although I'm also really pleased with how the boots took the dye without blotching or streaking. I did re-dye the tunic, but for some reason, it just won't photograph in it's 'true color'... The tabards were actually made by my mother in an emergency, as the machine I'd been given stopped working, so I cut the synth-leather to size, marked it on the back with tailor's chalk, and mailed it to her with an instruction list ;D She'd previously made my black tabards, so knew what she was doing (although I didn't want the bottom edge sewn, but, she did get it back to me in 3 days, and just before the vacation, so I can't grumble too much ;D ) Not bad, Tanzaan. That's pretty darn good! Thanks  I can't wait to see your completed costume 
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Post by Olos Nay on Oct 20, 2005 14:09:12 GMT -5
you mean the tunic isn't really red?
I tough it looked great in that reddish/purpuly brown color...
I guess if its brown it looks a whole lot less dark jedi.
(I also guess) - if the "gi" has been altered and doesn't look too much like a gi, maybe the council would allow it... but I wonder if allowing a gi would make a precedent and make more and more GI-Jedi around here... While yours look kinda cool, others wouldn't... a costuming association is all about look...
Nice background, BTW...
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 20, 2005 14:15:08 GMT -5
you mean the tunic isn't really red? I tough it looked great in that reddish/purpuly brown color... I guess if its brown it looks a whole lot less dark jedi. Nice background, BTW... No, to look at with the naked eye, it's a mid brown in the terracotta range (although it is the result of Terracotta, dark brown and burgundy dyes) For some reason, it just won't photograph without looking red, and adjusting the color balance just messes with the rest of the picture As soon as I saw pictures of Portmeirion at my future in-law's, I knew it would be perfect for a costume shot, and I'm really pleased with how they turned out  The only dissappointment was my fiance was also going to pose for some pictures, but when the time came, we couldn't find her tabards or obi, so we only photographed me, and by the time we'd found them, the weather had turned bad. However, we're going back in June, so there'll be more pictures taken then  (I also guess) - if the "gi" has been altered and doesn't look too much like a gi, maybe the council would allow it... but I wonder if allowing a gi would make a precedent and make more and more GI-Jedi around here... While yours look kinda cool, others wouldn't... a costuming association is all about look... I don't know, it certainly would be a precedent, but then again, maybe the Council ultimately agreed with the points I made previously about the tunic being relatively hidden beneath the obi and tabards, or that it could be considered a variation on the theme, like Yareal Poof's, and Master Yoda's clothes, which are nothing like other Jedi's clothing. Either way, I'm just really happy with the outcome 
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 20, 2005 22:48:11 GMT -5
You look pretty good in the costume. It came out well. But I'd consider getting a seam-ripper and picking out the extra stitching on the collar and ironing it flat. Unless you're going to fight in it, you won't need the extra reinforcement. It doesn't require any sewing and that stitching is the part that will make people think the tunic is a gi.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 21, 2005 2:31:38 GMT -5
(I also guess) - if the "gi" has been altered and doesn't look too much like a gi, maybe the council would allow it... but I wonder if allowing a gi would make a precedent and make more and more GI-Jedi around here... While yours look kinda cool, others wouldn't... a costuming association is all about look... Olos, you're right, we've thought about that problem of "let in one gi and you'll get twenty". That's an issue being discussed by the council right now. Most gi's that show up are turned away, but the few that have be allowed in are accepted because the alterations done are enough so that it doesn't look like one, and it blends well with the rest of the costume. Also there are several members with gi's who were accepted before we thought about having a rule like that. That's also in review. Now I can tell it's a gi right away, like I said somewhere before, the stitching and construction give it away... I've done martial arts so I'm very familiar with the different types of gi's as well. But not everyone can tell, especially if it's dyed or altered. Tanzan that's a nice look. I like the sleevless robe. The whole thing looks great on you! The only thing I would work on is the several rows of stitching around the collar trim. Like Ani said, you can probably pull most of it out. Sometimes dye doesn't take to thread because it's synthetic and not cotton or a cotton blend like the rest of the fabric. 
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 21, 2005 4:03:18 GMT -5
You look pretty good in the costume. It came out well. But I'd consider getting a seam-ripper and picking out the extra stitching on the collar and ironing it flat. Unless you're going to fight in it, you won't need the extra reinforcement. It doesn't require any sewing and that stitching is the part that will make people think the tunic is a gi.
Thanks  The stitching was something I was concerned about, because it didn't take the dye, but I didn't want to risk unpicking it and having it all fall apart so soon before the vacation ;D Now it's not such an issue, I'll be pulling the stitching out  Tanzan that's a nice look. I like the sleevless robe. The whole thing looks great on you! The only thing I would work on is the several rows of stitching around the collar trim. Like Ani said, you can probably pull most of it out. Sometimes dye doesn't take to thread because it's synthetic and not cotton or a cotton blend like the rest of the fabric.  Thanks  I'm really pleased with how it all works together, I just wish there was some way of getting the colors to photograph as seen with the naked eye ;D I was surprized when the stitching didn't take the dye, but that's going to be coming out 
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Post by Olos Nay on Oct 21, 2005 9:15:27 GMT -5
The only thing I would work on is the several rows of stitching around the collar trim. I agree... without the multiple threads on the collar, its less obvious its a gi. It sold it right away to me. I don't do martial arts (yet). If he could remove those or somehow hide it, I guess it would be very nice. Without the gi-aspect of it, the costume is impressive. This said, the fact some people where in with a lesser costume shouldn't imply that new members should bend the newly instated rule... I mean, you don't have to be here to have a jedi costume. If you want to be here, you decided you can have a good ennough costume to participate in the assembly, you should bend to the assembly's rules and regulations. Just like TanzanLinnear who is working his gi into a good ennough costume. I think its the job of the counsil to enforce those rules. I mean, all other costuming association do enforce their rules and gain in membership every years. If the staff makes high standard, people will enjoy comparing their high standardized costumes with others of the same quality and every is going to be happy. If, however, the staff let anything in, people will go with the "anything goes" and we'll end up bathrobe-jedi association. Hey... I'm still working on a "presentable ennough" costume for my submission to the assembly. I believe you have high ennough standard for me to take time before applying... There is no hurry in costuming..?
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Post by tanzanlinnear on Oct 21, 2005 15:10:02 GMT -5
I agree... without the multiple threads on the collar, its less obvious its a gi. It sold it right away to me. I don't do martial arts (yet). If he could remove those or somehow hide it, I guess it would be very nice. Without the gi-aspect of it, the costume is impressive. This said, the fact some people where in with a lesser costume shouldn't imply that new members should bend the newly instated rule... I mean, you don't have to be here to have a jedi costume. If you want to be here, you decided you can have a good ennough costume to participate in the assembly, you should bend to the assembly's rules and regulations. Just like TanzanLinnear who is working his gi into a good ennough costume. I think its the job of the counsil to enforce those rules. I mean, all other costuming association do enforce their rules and gain in membership every years. If the staff makes high standard, people will enjoy comparing their high standardized costumes with others of the same quality and every is going to be happy. If, however, the staff let anything in, people will go with the "anything goes" and we'll end up bathrobe-jedi association. Hey... I'm still working on a "presentable ennough" costume for my submission to the assembly. I believe you have high ennough standard for me to take time before applying... There is no hurry in costuming..? I don't think that the Council will have accepted an 'anything goes' policy, but I do suspect (confirmation or denial from the Council would be nice here) that maybe they've decided to go with my suggestion of allowing costumes over 80% compliant, and giving them the six months leniency shown to existing members that aren't up to scratch, to make the necessary changes. That said, I simply submitted the photos as they are, and received an acceptance the next day, which makes no mention of changes that need to be made,so I guess my costume has been accepted as is, for which I'm really grateful  I do plan on improving the tunic. My only rush was that I wanted it finished before my vacation so we could shoot the photos on location.
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Oct 21, 2005 18:37:30 GMT -5
If you want to be sure, start picking out the threads from the center of the collar; they're just there to reinforce the material so it can hold up to being grabbed in fighting. Get a needle and thread the same color as the tunic just in case something comes loose that shouldn't. I can't tell from the picture, but if you have contrasting color thread at the hems of the sleeves and tunic you could take those out later and hem them by hand. It's not something you need to do right away, but that would improve the look, too.
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