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Post by Ldi-Ovef Te_Azi on Oct 6, 2006 19:18:23 GMT -5
ill look into it
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Post by nassik on Oct 7, 2006 3:31:39 GMT -5
At the risk of bringing the wrath of the Assembly down upon my head, I am not fond of Random Sabers at all. I've looked there, posted in the forum, and even submitted a design to Ryan. Despite all of that I am not satisfied with his work. I have seen the sabers that he has produced and they all look like prequel style sabers to me. The look grows stale very quickly. After examining my saber design I was told that Random Sabers could not produce it. This, in and of itself, is cause for disapproval. My personal grievances aside, I am not fond of having to wait a year or more for a design to be crafted. I know that patience is a virtue but patience does have its limits. RLSA sabers are pretty nice looking. I have looked over that site repeatedly and they do produce respectable sabers at an outstanding price. For the cost-conscious Jedi, RLSA sabers are a good way to go. My only two dislikes of RLSA is that I don't readily see any method of belt attachment to their sabers and, despite the sabers being custom creations, they are not the customers' creations, but the ideas of the crafter himself. And while the designs are nice this fact does take a little of the fun out of the whole thing.
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Post by Jeffrek on Oct 7, 2006 6:22:55 GMT -5
At least if Randon Sabres cannot make your design they tell you so instead of taking your money then dissapointing you later. The later is much worse.
Sometimes people who are not machinists do not understand some of the practical problems that are involved in designs. Thats why compromises are made, it happens with any real life design process. Both Random and RSLA provide a much needed supply, both differing but rqually valid services.
Sounds like the only way you will be truely happy with any sabre is to make it yourself Nassik. To a certain extent Im the same, so much so that I ended up buying myself a small lathe. I certainly have a much greater appreciation on the amount of time and effort that goes into ANY project involving machine work now.
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on Oct 7, 2006 8:09:30 GMT -5
i wo wanna find a custom sabre sight that can machine curved hilts like the dooku one in level of similarity. i would love to make my own custom curveds but the problem is that noone can do it as well as i would want. Machinists use lathes...which aren't meant for curves. You'd have to have a curved piece and use the machined sections as sleeves over it, probably.
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Post by nassik on Oct 7, 2006 9:08:22 GMT -5
I have no need to craft the saber myself, Jeffrek. I have found someone that can and is crafting it for me. Bob at Advanced Light Weaponry examined my design and decided that it can be done. It isn't cheap, but it is precisely what I asked for. As I have discovered, in life you get what you pay for. I'm handicapped anyway and so I couldn't make the thing myself even if I wanted to. I suspect that anything that I tried to build would look shoddy at best and crappy at worst.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Oct 7, 2006 20:59:27 GMT -5
Glad that you found someone who could do your design, Nassik. What satisfys one person does not necessarily satisfy another, and vice versa.
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Post by nassik on Oct 8, 2006 0:12:54 GMT -5
That is very true, Leda. As my dad used to say, "You can't please everyone, you've got to please yourself." If everyone was equally easy or difficult to please things would all start to look similar and that would make things boring very quickly. My design is rather extraordinary, if I may say so, and so I am anxious to see ALW's interpretation of it.
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Post by Ldi-Ovef Te_Azi on Oct 9, 2006 0:29:42 GMT -5
At least if Randon Sabres cannot make your design they tell you so instead of taking your money then dissapointing you later. The later is much worse. Sometimes people who are not machinists do not understand some of the practical problems that are involved in designs. Thats why compromises are made, it happens with any real life design process. Both Random and RSLA provide a much needed supply, both differing but rqually valid services. Sounds like the only way you will be truely happy with any sabre is to make it yourself Nassik. To a certain extent Im the same, so much so that I ended up buying myself a small lathe. I certainly have a much greater appreciation on the amount of time and effort that goes into ANY project involving machine work now. what lathe did you buy and where, im looking into trying it out myself (depending on the costs and size)
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Post by Jeffrek on Oct 10, 2006 14:48:25 GMT -5
I bought a very small 'tabletop' size lathe. If I were to do it over I would get a slightly bigger one (a 10x12 most likely). The one I have is fine if I make sabres in seperate parts (pommel, main body and emmitter) but its a bit limiting for other projects Ive been working on like barrels for my firefly-esque pistols.
I dont think where I bought it from is useful as Im in the UK so its not too relevant to your location.
The thing to remember is that tooling for the lathe can cost nearly as much as the lathe itself. Its one of those not so obvious costs that people overlook.
Make sure any lathe has a compound slide attachment as they are vital to do angled cuts without messing around with offsetting the tailstock which is a real pain to centre again once youve moved it.
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Post by Ldi-Ovef Te_Azi on Oct 11, 2006 0:36:43 GMT -5
kk, what are the tools you would need to lathe a sabre
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Post by methos on Oct 11, 2006 13:09:45 GMT -5
make note a atble top drill press is a gift from god when you need a good drill and tap job for holes. you can get one for 60 dolla at home depot i believe
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Post by Ldi-Ovef Te_Azi on Oct 11, 2006 21:43:43 GMT -5
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Post by vortextwist on Jan 13, 2007 19:50:27 GMT -5
For me it is both. I would like to have one of each MR sabers, but also Have a custom saber that I made, or designed. Like other people have said it is all about time, money, and ability to make it yourself.
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Post by Olos Nay on Jan 13, 2007 22:18:09 GMT -5
Where's the line drawn between custom and replica? a Graflex Inspired Custom saber - custom or replica? for instance, this saber I made from a King Sol, inspired by Anakin EP2, with less greeblies... Custom or replica? Seriously, I made it, but I don't know how to consider it... Custom because its my own making, or replica because its inspired by a specific one? On a side note: I wish I had the room for a lathe. or even a drill press.
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Post by vortextwist on Jan 13, 2007 23:26:14 GMT -5
When I think of replica I think of an identicle copy or pretty d**n close. anything that deviates from that specific design is custom, regardless of if you just changed a few things, it is still custom.
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