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Post by J'aii-Gun Jiinn on May 13, 2008 7:53:14 GMT -5
That's what we teach is Safety first.It's more chorography than duelling
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on May 13, 2008 21:27:36 GMT -5
That's great to hear
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on May 13, 2008 22:07:38 GMT -5
It's great to revisit this thread and see more great ideas! Looks like I'm going to be picking up some DVDs... Speaking of DVDs, on YouTube I stumbled on one of the "Featurettes" from The Phantom Menace that I had not seen... the one on "Fighting". The thing I really liked is that it shows several sections in slow motion and then the "at speed" versions. The slow-motion versions are great for mimicking and "drilling" although they're a bit short (obviously, since it's for ENTERTAINMENT, not training... ) Still waiting for a DVD someday from NYJedi. But while scouting on Amazon earlier today, I saw several instructional Martial Art (Kendo, Iaido, etc.) DVDs... some of them with not-too-bad reviews. I wonder if any of those would be helpful? Thoughts from our experts??
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Post by J'aii-Gun Jiinn on May 14, 2008 15:10:16 GMT -5
I'd like to find one using Tai Chi moves
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on May 24, 2008 1:00:26 GMT -5
It all depends on what you want out of it,. They are a good base for those who simnly use FX sabers for fun, every professional swordsman or martial artist trained in either fencing/Iai-Do/European will have things they do not like about those tutorials.
I mean I love Highlander it got me into doing my job...........and yet there are times I weatch the films or some of the series and I shakde my head cause the tradional trained student in me goes'WRONG' when I see certain things but the Fight Coodrinator in me goes'perfect' so there are two different things.
Kind of like here, some stuff I enjoy seeing from them. Some stuff not my thing or I don't agree witht hem, but for those who need something and can't quite find a teacher or an art to put what they know into fun with the saber then you have groups and sites like NYJedi and that's a good thing.
Because we don't really have regulations on correct and incorrect forms because the Lightsaber can be a weapon but not a classicially trained one (hence using earth things like swords and even tree chopping as a base) means were open to many different types of variations.
We take what we can from the Visual Dictionaries and Wookiepedia on forms and terms and etc, which is a great base for starts. I think it's up to each person to decide what they feel is the best Lightsaber fomr for them. If I am training an actor I can't always use my style, soemtimes I have to use a european one or a olympic type of fencing or sometimes just brute swings.
Do I agree with all the NY Jedi does, no. But I would just love to ahvea group of friends to spar with, haven't had that since I wa younger and still in a dojo
Just have fun doing it
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Post by Solinbeb Newau on May 25, 2008 8:51:41 GMT -5
Each jedi would have his own individual style, influenced by those around him or her to be honest.
I grew up "stick fighting" (ie fighting with broken tree branches, broom handles, hiking sticks, etc.), then got into classic stage combat a few years later...then eventually fencing...which I guess would all technically be considered western styles.
Anyone who's seen me with a lightsaber would have seen all the different influences.
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on May 26, 2008 22:32:28 GMT -5
Yeah that goes without saying unless you dstudy just one form and that's it which is rare even in formalized Martial Artists your gonna see different things
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Post by causa on Jun 1, 2010 16:40:14 GMT -5
If you are looking for a katana based style, then I would suggest looking into iaido training in your area. Muso Jikiden Eishen Ryu is probably the most popular style here in America, followed my Muso Shiden Ryu. But all styles will start with the first 12 seitei waza, which aren't specific to any style.
Iaido is taught in waza, with no sparring element...each waza is focused on a unique situation, and should build a huge library of movements for you to choose from when choreographing, or whatever your purpose is.
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Jun 5, 2010 21:46:18 GMT -5
Keeping in mind folks Iai-Do is art of drawing. Kenjitsu would be art of combat just so your aware. I studies the similar mentods mentioned above but my school taught both. Some will only teach one at a time
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Post by causa on Jun 7, 2010 15:41:43 GMT -5
Iaido is the art of drawing, in the literal interpretation, but the waza are the motions and attacks for a given situation. They start with drawing the sword and end with re-sheathing it (notto/napdo), but if you've studied iaido then you know that there is much more to it than just those two components.
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Jul 8, 2010 22:40:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Jul 8, 2010 23:36:26 GMT -5
Intresting, nice to see some stuff popping up.
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Post by Larwi B'nu on Jul 13, 2010 21:52:07 GMT -5
I really should invest some time in watching these videos and/or seeking some formal training. A friend of mine was having a birthday party, I brought my Mace Windu-style saber (orange, though; I thought purple had been done to death already...never do what people expect you to), he was all agog, and then he summarily kicked my @#$% because he, unlike myself, has had real sword training. Just for the few microseconds of duelling that I participated in, I can tell that it would be a great workout....
...it's on my To Do List!
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Post by Kryy Jacobi on Jul 13, 2010 22:31:43 GMT -5
Larry, If you have the old boxed set of the Original Trilogy (the silver or gold slipcase from about 2005) on the fourth (bonus) disc, there is a really good documentary on "The Birth of the Lightsaber". They have "raw" footage of (the process of filming of) all 6 movies, without the closeups, cutting in and out, effects, CGI, etc. so you can see the actors' movements, and very importantly, their footwork. That disk also has the short "The Return of Darth Vader" (obviously pre-release of ROTS) with footage of the "raw" duel in front of green screen... again, you can see what they're doing. These have become two favorites of mine in recent weeks, in addition to the "Stunts" documentary from ROTS and the "Fights" documentary from TPM. Also go to F-X sabers and PM "Caine"... he has a Level I video available which I ordered a few days ago ... I plan to work on that with some friends until the more extensive set is available. Actually, just go to F-X Sabers in general, to the "Dueling" section and you'll have a great time! www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?board=14.0I can see it now... instead of "What's your sign?" or from college, "What's your major?", it's now "What's your Form?" LOL
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Post by Ky-Wan Zann on Jul 17, 2010 19:41:11 GMT -5
Yes there is a lot of sources out there for Lightsaber fighting and formal sword training. Depending on what you are looking for. A lot of my stuff is a mix because I've done film fights as well as taken actual formal training both theatrical and discipline. Please just keep in mind that by watching these videos and asking for help still means attempt at your own risk and basic guidelines such as no aggression with the weapon should be shown to humans or animals etc etc. But it really is nice to see people doing whole groups about training and even getting custom made battle sabers done for them.
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