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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 14, 2005 17:13:35 GMT -5
I wore all my Jedi gear to my Sociology class today. My prof likes to ask ppl what exciting things took place over the weekend, I said ROTJ trailer, wore the Jedi stuff to celebrate it. Anyway, after class it snowed on the way back to rez, and I found that my robe (made of gaberdine) holds up well in snow, and doesn't get very wet. My question is how well do your cloaks hold up in the snow (or rain) and what materials are they?
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Post by Jauhzmynn Enz on Mar 14, 2005 19:11:20 GMT -5
My robe gets wet. Yick. But it's not a wool fabric cuz in FLorida I'd get waaaaay to hot.
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Post by JediKai on Mar 15, 2005 0:12:00 GMT -5
My 100% wool gabardine robe holds up very will in Seattle rain, thank you very much! It keeps me warm and dry.
So well, in fact, that I made a modified Jedi robe for street wear. It's out of heavy wool melton but shorter and with smaller hood and sleeves so it looks more like a normal coat. It is my winter coat and the best one ever for keeping me warm and dry.
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Post by Obi-1 on Sept 29, 2005 9:46:17 GMT -5
I know this is an older thread, but would a cotton robe get really soaked by rain, and would it keep you relatively dry?
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Sept 29, 2005 17:17:00 GMT -5
My guess is that cotton would get wet, but a little Scotch-Guard will help with that. A lot depends on the precipitation you're dealing with. Even wool will get soaked in a Florida deluge, while snow doesn't penetrate any fabric like rain does.
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Post by JediKai on Sept 30, 2005 0:48:19 GMT -5
Cotton will get SOAKED. It will not keep you dry at all. For that you need chemicals.....as in Scotchguard, as Ani wrote.
Wool is still the all around best, of the non-high-tech fabrics, at retaining warmth even while soaking wet. My experience at CIII is an example. We were in an hours long line in the POURING rain. It was really cold, too. While my wool robe was quite wet, I was warm.
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Post by Obi-1 on Sept 30, 2005 1:13:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. I only ask because I live in Arizona, and while it does not rain often (however when it does it sheets down for a good amount of time then disappears... think Kamino in short spurts lol) it is very hot here, and a wool robe would probably end up being the death of me. Although I know next to nothing about scotch guard I do know that it can make things very stiff, and I do not want to to deal with a stiff robe. Perhaps some of you would care to educate me as to how I would go about this all correctly...
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Post by Ani-Chay Pinn on Sept 30, 2005 17:45:47 GMT -5
I haven't Scotch-Guarded anything in years, but I don't recall stiffness being that much of a problem. It may be different for different fabrics. Check out the fine print on a can of ScotchGuard at the store for details on fabrics and washing. Stiffness may only last until the first washing and then go away (presumably the Scotch Guard will stay .
We did get rained on at CIII, and it was a rain that would get you wet. Cotton is unfortunately an absorber, so it would have been a bad choice, especially since it was cold outside, too.
I haven't tested this out, but I have a theory that natural fibers, even wool, are more wearable in desert heat. My only data to support that are a few out-takes from ANH; there is Alec Guiness, sitting there in a chair, wearing the whole outfit including the robe, chatting. It didn't look like he was getting ready to go on camera. Why didn't he take the robe off? It's even hotter in Tunisia than it is in Arizona! I make the same observation for the "gumby" picture of of Liam Neeson wearing Qu-Gon's wool/linen blend poncho in ATC. Now Neeson might not have wanted to ruin his wig and the white cap on it, but if the poncho were really too warm, they do have people whose only job is to assist with clothes and touch up hair pieces.
But NO fabric on Earth will hold out against the super-soakers like we get in Florida (and I presume like in Arizona). They're the next best thing to just jumping into a pool. And you know it's going to be bad when the first drops of rain that appear on the pavement are more than an inch in diameter.
Your best protection against that kind of rain would be a concealed pocket with a velcro closure (a wide hem facing on the sleeves is good place to put that) in which you can keep one of those $3 plastic rain ponchos.
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Post by Obi-1 on Sept 30, 2005 19:19:36 GMT -5
Alright, I think I will end up going with cotton in the end, I might move on to wool later, but for now cotton will serve my purposes well.
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Post by JediKai on Oct 1, 2005 2:49:17 GMT -5
Ah, Arizona. Since you are posting in "Snow test" thread, I was thinking colder weather!
Given what you describe, I'd go with cotton (or linen, raw silk, but cotton is cheaper). You'll get soaked, but if it's hot, it will dry quickly. Doesn't sound like you need the wool to keep warm!
I used to live in Southern California. I used to also attend the Estrella War outside Phoenix (in Goodyear, AZ) In SCA costume in the very hot, quite dry heat, I'd wear a cotton gauze veil that I would wet thoroughly to keep my head cool. In that heat, it would be bone dry in about a half hour!
Heavier cotton would take longer, but if it's really hot, it will keep you cooler!
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Post by Jan-Qui Coran on Oct 1, 2005 17:43:33 GMT -5
I bought myself a clear poncho to wear over my robe if it rained anywhere & I needed to cover up to protect the costume--of course the boots would get wet but that's that. That was a good idea to make a type of pocket inside the robe--Under the sleeve area? I just want to make sure that's what I understood when I read the post.
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Post by Obi-1 on Oct 2, 2005 15:32:46 GMT -5
Well the problem isn't here during the summer, it's during the winter. In the winter months when it is 40 outside (I know you're probably thinking "only 40?!") and the heat isn't there to dry it, I was just wondering if maybe the wool would hold up better, or a scotch guarded robe, so that the water jets off of it. The reason I wondered about it being stiff when scotched is because I own a Tuxedo shirt that it scotch guarded, and parts of it seem very stiff (like the front where there is more fabric) although I think that is in case you spill something while eating or something along those lines.
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Post by JediKai on Oct 3, 2005 1:20:58 GMT -5
OK, then..... for 40 degrees and rain....wool is best at keeping you warm while wet.
One of my old SCA tricks, though, is wearing a goretex raincoat UNDER the cloak, or in this case, robe.
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Post by Nova Darklighter on Oct 5, 2005 23:11:52 GMT -5
The fronts of most tux shirts are stiffened, it's most likely not the scochgard. I've never had scochgard stiffen anything on me.
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Post by Obi-1 on Oct 20, 2005 11:36:23 GMT -5
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