Xzandar Vannlo
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"Is this what you call a Diplomatic Solution?" "No this is what I call Aggresive Nagotiatins"
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 24, 2005 22:33:14 GMT -5
For one I don't like my savior referred to as a clever dude. Secondly, if you want links you can go search for your own links or ask someone eles because I'm not the type of person who just makes links for anything I only makes links for homework related things.
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Post by modeleers on Mar 24, 2005 22:51:46 GMT -5
IM(humble)O, if you please, ...Shall not Know love! Hmmm? Oh isn't that like the 'Pirate's Code' in POTC, "It's more like a Guideline than Rules". When one sez, "a Jedi shall not know love", that phrasing might translate into 'TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF' , as written in the style typical of most Religious Philosophy. Falling in love or Having known love, is Not the same as "not Know Love". What that sorta really means to say is: Yo Jedi- Don't waist your time on that Path. IMO -M/M
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Post by modeleers on Mar 24, 2005 23:19:16 GMT -5
One other thing on my brain, or was that, in my Heart, Was Not, 'a Jedi Shall not know love', referred to in here as just a "tag line from a poster", also spoken dialogue between Ama & Ani? (One of them quoting Jedi Code)
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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 25, 2005 0:44:11 GMT -5
Vannlo, I'm sorry if I offended you, but think of the context. I'm an atheist who is complimenting Jesus as being wise and a good influence. Just because I don't worship him, that doesn't mean I don't respect his teachings. He told people to love one another. I love my girlfriend. I would die to save her life. I don't consider that a stupid thing, I consider that a noble and selfless thing.
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Post by J'st-Peat on Mar 25, 2005 6:40:21 GMT -5
Lets quit dancing around the subject here. Sex is really whats forbidden to the jedi and they use love as the cover. In essence Jedi's are a type of holy figure. When it comes down to one of the big reasons they are forbidden love is sexual. I could see how that can could the mind.
After all there is "no PASSION there is serenity."
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Post by Anakin Skywalker on Mar 25, 2005 9:28:17 GMT -5
Lets quit dancing around the subject here. Sex is really whats forbidden to the jedi and they use love as the cover. In essence Jedi's are a type of holy figure. When it comes down to one of the big reasons they are forbidden love is sexual. I could see how that can could the mind. After all there is "no PASSION there is serenity." Actually, sex isn't forbidden to the Jedi. Ki-Adi Mundi is allowed several wives because his species is statistically low in males, but he only does so because has no emotional attachments to them. Real love and attachments based on that love are what's forbidden.
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Xzandar Vannlo
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"Is this what you call a Diplomatic Solution?" "No this is what I call Aggresive Nagotiatins"
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 25, 2005 9:53:27 GMT -5
This is what it says on the back of the box of the movie AOTC.
"Anakin Skywalker has grown into an accomplished Jedi apprentice, and he faces his most difficult challenge yet as he must choose between his Jedi duty and FORBIDDEN LOVE.
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BakaNeko
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Post by BakaNeko on Mar 25, 2005 13:24:47 GMT -5
It wasnt fear that made him kill all the Tuskens, it was his love for his mother that drove him for revenge.
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Xzandar Vannlo
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"Is this what you call a Diplomatic Solution?" "No this is what I call Aggresive Nagotiatins"
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Post by Xzandar Vannlo on Mar 25, 2005 13:46:20 GMT -5
It wasnt fear that made him kill all the Tuskens, it was his love for his mother that drove him for revenge. A.K.A. a step to the Dark Side.
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Post by modeleers on Mar 25, 2005 14:06:15 GMT -5
Love has NOTHING to do with acts of Revenge. Emotions that were out of step with Rational Thinking were what propelled him to act out as a Killer. He didn't just step Toward the Dark Side, he Fell in. Ooops!
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Post by Anakin Skywalker on Mar 25, 2005 17:04:30 GMT -5
Love has NOTHING to do with acts of Revenge. Emotions that were out of step with Rational Thinking were what propelled him to act out as a Killer. He didn't just step Toward the Dark Side, he Fell in. Ooops! Actually, yes it does, I don't understand how someone can think otherwise. If he didn't love his mother he wouldn't have exacted revenge for her death. If he wasn't so madly in love with Padmé he wouldn't have done the things that he did in effort to protect her. I would elaborate more but I don't want to spoil certain parts of ROTS.
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Post by Shatir Lavan on Mar 26, 2005 0:12:12 GMT -5
Step back in the movie. The reason why he went to Tatooine in the first place was because he had dreams of losing his mother. He was afraid that was going to happen. Then he had to search her out to find out what had happened to her. His fear of losing her was what gave him anxiety. Losing her made him give into anger.
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Post by Leda EmBorr on Mar 26, 2005 1:31:52 GMT -5
Guys, "Love" is a very broad term. I'm not gonna quote the back of some cereal box here, but based on what I've read, heard, and seen in the Star Wars Universe (aka George Lucas' imagination), the Jedi are not allowed to have emotional attachments that might possibly interfere with their duties as Jedi. The Jedi are the peacekeepers of he galaxy, and in turn must be fair and impartial to all. An emotional attatchment, such as one significant other, be it a mate, wife or husband, a parent or a sibling, would be seen as a threat to their commitment to the Jedi order, and to the greater good of the galaxy. The problem lies in balance. Ever hear the expression "too much of a good thing"? Like the health food nut who's brain fails to function due to lack of fat... "Love" in the traditional sense, is like... like.... I'm gonna say it... like oxygen... (OMG I can't believe I'm saying this)... you get too much you get too high... not enough and your gonna die... But it's true! By being inflexible when it came to following code, the Jedi could not contain a spirit like Anakin Skywalker. A little bit of leeway would probably made all the difference. But then we wouldn't have such a compelling, dramatic movie, now would we?
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Post by JediMistressDragon on Mar 26, 2005 9:48:48 GMT -5
Actually talking about attachjments, the jedi are attached to their old masters, etcc.. in lieu of parents. You can't stop, in reality, from someone becoming attached or love someone else, not unless someone's a machine totally, like a robot. All I know is I've been married for 28 years and love my husband deeply and I don't think it makes me weak or anything. same for him--he's a volunteer firefighter and though he just drives the engine now, that's more because he's getting older and with age, all that wanting to rush into a burning building where others are running out from, you realize your own mortality. As for Anakin, he's acting like most young adults. it took my son until he turned 26 that he screwed up a lot in high school and admitted it to me freely on his birthday. Maybe the experts are right about those under age 25 aren't fully developed in brain to think logically and not do the things a teen does. It's been on the news, esp. in lieu of letting teens have licences or not. JMD
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Post by caswi-delcor on Mar 26, 2005 14:53:45 GMT -5
well i for one am under 25 and i think pretty logicly
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